Bill Maher’s advice to atheists. + My plan of attack.

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  1. cupid dave

    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    What about the ever growing and now so large group of unwed single never married Welfare-living women who raise the violent criminal elements that jogs our criminal justice systems????
     
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    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    Yes, Abortion has always been the only means of treating the illness of Bastards.
    Child sacrifices of ancient times continue today with methods that kill the fetus instead of the actual birth, itself.

    The churches fight against abortion, but their own children have 2/3rds of the 1.2 million babies killed every year.
    We have changed the name of bastards to fatherless children in order not to insult that very large group of people now living with us who have had a mother and father raise us, but the term had roots in the crime and delinquency that people have always noticed in the past.

    Call them whatever you want, if you wish to avoid complaint, but they are responsible for 70% of all violent crime today, and where packed into our metropolis, they make the city too dangerous to live in and property values to diminish.
    The cost of the criminal justice system the robberies, the violence, and Welfare is challenging every city in America.
     
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    Sounds like you're 100% for abortions...as long as they're not white kids or rich kids...


    The name hasn't changed to fatherless children because all kids have fathers... decent humans call them children.

    Anti-Choicers tend to call them "precious gifts" (but , like you, ONLY BEFORE they're born)...

    And you forgot to explain :Originally Posted by FoxHastings
    """ atheist AKA Bill Maher, is also sexually promiscuous behavior."""

    Bill Maher is sexually promiscuous behaviour???? How does that work???
     
  4. cupid dave

    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    True.
    There are good kids like our president, whose grand mom and grand dad raised to be a great smart guy.
    But 70% of ALL violent crime in America is caused by these fatherless kids, and I suspect other problems are very abusive to those who may do no crime.

    What atheism does is condone sexual promiscuity that raises kids not to be sexual unless they intend to mary and be christian in their responsibility to wife and child.
     
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    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    An atheist is a person who does not believe in god or gods. That's it, that's all.

    Atheism isn't a society or club or church that promotes any style of living, there are no rules, no laws...and it is STUPID to think they do.

    THIS atheist does not promote sexual promiscuity but this ATHEIST doesn't sit in judgement, playing god like christians do, on others who may enjoy sexual promiscuity....

    There are SOME christians who wallow in sexual promiscuity....there are SOME atheists who do it...

    SO?
     
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    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    Of course the truth is that fatherlessness is a terrible abuse for kids and the mothers, too.

    Atheists can try to side step the Facts here, but the evidence is available on the stats which can be checked out on the internet here.
    As a confirmed atheists, what do you recommend that we do with these fatherless abused kids which now number half of al births in america every year, while we also kill another group the same size in Abortions?

    We have tried the Failed Sex Education, Free condoms, open Family Planning Centers, and disgusted the issue of bastards publicly now for 50 years, half a century.
     
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    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    Yes, the Christian girls are all acting like atheists until they have babies, then becoming Christians after the damage is done and mom and dad have not opposed this behavior effectively.
    Atheism seems very seductive for teen agers and makes the case for sexless examples by adults and shame as a deterrent.
     
  8. Swensson

    Swensson Devil's advocate

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    I don't think lurkers are that common on a small subforum like this and most of them will be people who already feel strongly about religion, one way or the other. And even if there were, I doubt that non-aggressive discussion will fare much worse, especially since one of the most effective arguments for religion seems to be the calling criticism against religion arrogant. I have no problem with you bringing up different questions, but I don't see the point in doing so aggressively.
    My bad, I misinterpreted some stuff.
     
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    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    Wasn't equality between women and gays already there when sexual promiscuity was outlawed, prostitution was illegal, and no divorce were the rule????

    what we have seen since 1950 is that women banded together and changed the rules.
    Then Gays said, "Me too."
     
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    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    The sexual abuse is wrong.
    That Jesus was a bastard is immaterial to what happens when the father disappears and does not support or recognize the kid as his child.

    Remember these FACTS, they are the Truth on fatherless children:


    Statistics on Fatherlessness
    CHILDREN NEED BOTH PARENTS
    (*)
    It’s a Fact
    Here’s why:

    63% of youth suicides are from fatherless homes. (Source: U.S. D.H.H.S., Bureau of the Census).

    90% of all homeless and runaway children are from fatherless homes.

    85% of all children that exhibit behavioral disorders come from fatherless homes.
    (Source: Center for Disease Control).

    80% of rapist motivated by displaced anger come from fatherless homes. (Source:
    Criminal Justice and Behavior, Vol. 14, pp. 403-26).

    71% of all high school dropouts come from fatherless homes. (Source: National Principals Assoc. Report on the State of High Schools).

    85% of all youths sitting in prisons grew up in a fatherless home. (Source: Fulton County Georgia jail populations, Texas Dept. Of Corrections, 1992).

    These statistics translate to mean that children from fatherless homes are:

    5 times more likely to commit suicide
    32 times more likely to run away
    20 times more likely to have behavioral disorders
    14 times more likely to commit rape
    9 times more likely to drop out of high school
    20 times more likely to end up in prison

    (*)
    Children from fatherless homes are*:

    Children from "fatherless families of single mother" homes are*:
    (*)
    • 15.3 times more likely to have behavioral disorders
    • 4.6 times more likely to commit suicide
    • 6.6 times more likely to become teenaged mothers
    • 24.3 times more likely to run away
    • 15.3 times more likely to have behavioral disorders
    • 6.3 times more likely to be in a state-operated institutions
    • 10.8 times more likely to commit rape
    • 6.6 times more likely to drop out of school
    • 15.3 times more likely to end up in prison while a teenage
    • 73% of adolescent murderers come from mother only homes
    •(*) 6.3 times more likely to be in state operated institutions
    (*)
    Daughters who live in mother only homes are92% more likely to divorce
     
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    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    The purpose of Religion is to get people to do stuff, (and stop doing stuff), because they have become religious even though they can not exactly say why nor defend that religion, either.

    I am giving you reason why we need everyone to be religious, especially, about not be sexually promiscuous during their adolescence in particular.
    We want them to be prudent even if they can not tell others why.
    We need shame to rise up in people who become sexually promiscuous and get caught.
     
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    It is both silly and foolish to think backing a religious person into a corner has merit.

    You have no plan to stop the problem caused by sexual promiscuity that have destroyed every society since Egypt was an Empire 3300 years ago.
    You may pretend that is not the reason for Religion raising kids to be ashamed of sexual promiscuity, but it has been the only place and means for limiting such behavior when a society really practiced it.
     
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    What is atheism's beef with religion?

    Seems Bill Maher is just having an existential crisis having been raised a Catholic Jew.
     
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    So what is Bristol Palin? An atheist?
     
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    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    So...

    Read the List I have posted here, and see if allowing the child abuse is better than calling them "bastards."

    Raising kids in a natural, two parent family is the way to a strong child child, good adult, and health nation.
    This is the message here, and the meaning.
     
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    Are you talking about all the women who have to chase the deadbeat fathers who have run from their responsibilities as they are conditioned to do by a church that says they can use Jesus as their scapegoat?

    Is that the women who men have abused and left out to dry?

    Yep Christianity sure knows how to train real men. Deadbeat men.

    Regards
    DL
     
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    She is prime example of what atheism does to teenagers even in Christian families.

    2/3rds of all American bastards are born by girls raised as if they were practicing Christianity.
    Clearly, they are not.
    This truth is very important to Pro-life believers, since they need work within the Churches since 800,000 abortions every year are by their own daughters.

    But YOUR argument is directed at supporting these girls and their bad behaviors.
     
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    The problem is fatherless children,... for whatever reason.

    The solution that once worked was religion coupled with good examples by the adults.
     
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    So we can't even allow atheism to EXIST...because it would corrupt "good Christian girls in good Christian famileis"....like Bristol's?
     
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    Just remember the butterfly effect my friend.

    Regards
    DL
     
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    You mean they banded together against immoral males who would deny them equality without just cause.

    The same with gays.

    What does that tell you about the Christian religion?

    It tells me that their theology has a fundamental fault when they discriminate against half the world without cause.

    Regards
    DL
     
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    Like Gayness and sexual promiscuity, atheism might be a preference and belief one could hold and enjoy, while the kids were raised up as if shame was the reward for sexual infractions.

    Enjoy atheism without attacking religion, because teenagers need the tenets of prudence in their relationship with each other.
    Religion worked all throughout the Dark Ages until around 1054 AD, when the church fell and even the false Popes arose.
     
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    All that they did was outlaw sexual promiscuity and support the Institution-of-Marriage as the one place for sexual relationships when children might be born.
     
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    No argument on the need for both parents.

    What you need to factor into your stats is the fact that of those fathers and stepfathers who do remain in the home, something like 60 % of girls and 40 % of boys get abused in the homes with two parents.

    Something like 8% of prostitutes were basically driven out of two parent homes.

    We all have a lot of work to do it seems.

    Regards
    DL
     
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    Tsk tsk. Carrot and stick mentality.

    Better to have them do good for goodness sake than not do it out of shame or due to threats.

    I don't know as much of the situation out there at present but back when, girls were getting pregnant just to have the security of the dole because they could not trust the so called men around them. Men have to be more responsible if we want women to be as well.

    Regards
    DL
     

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