Theists- Would you commit an evil act if God ordered you to?

Answer my question and I'll answer yours.

 

You should not put something in parentheses and say I said something that I did not. Others will see that and assume I said those things.

First God is not good or bad he just is, morality is a set of societal norms since he has no society you cannot apply our morals to his actions. Second you cannot compare the intellect of man and the intellect of God that would be like comparing the intellect of man to that of an ant. Third I agree with your second part of that statement "He's smarter and more holy than me...so if it seems evil to me, I must be in the wrong."

 

so you have effectively relinquished moral responsibility. what you describe is not unlike stokholm syndrome.

ftr, this idea that authority trumps morality is apalling. ESPECIALLY when the authority in question is silent and invisible. ie, a hairs breadth from absolutely nothing.

 

where would the fun be in that?

 

This authority is not silent and invisible Gorn said it is right in your face talking to you. Kind of the opposite actually.

As to moral responsibility God trumps my morality every time, he has the ultimate authority to do so since he owns not just the universe but me his servant. He is the master of everything and only my own weakness would prevent me from obeying.

 

I would assume he/she is referring to the end days written in 'revealations'.

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So no loving, kind, and gentle god then? No free will then? Christian folks are all OVER the map in this belief.

 

You need to read the OP.

In this silly "Theist question" #4,027..... He isn't silent, invisible or nothing.

 

You're a lesbian?

You don't 'think' you could do it. I thought faith doesn't change. That should already be an absolute answer, yes or no. Obey God, or disobey God. So much for faith never changing.

 

You asked "why are we being ignored by the Theists again?".... so I offered a fix.

 

It is completely silent and invisible to ME...and thus of no consequence to ethical and moral thought or action. That you can imagine it speaking to you and believe it as a reality...is indicative of a form of mental illness or telepathy.

 

Oh there is free will, you can go against Gods commands but you suffer the consequences. As to the loving, kind, and gentle God that is a fairly new interpretation that I think describes one aspect of the triune Godhead. The Son does fall within that but the father is a tad more strict and the holy ghost well that is a mystery we have yet to decipher. But I am not a theologian and I know that many would not agree with me. But hey thats is why we have these discussion and why I thought this one was so important. Even if Gorn meant it as a trap. This should not be a trap question for those that have REALLY thought about God

 

Those are only correct if you're a christian. Most of the world in NOT christian, therefore the christian God doesn't affect them. And NO, the christian god is not the creator God of the universe. Only for christians.

 

I am only abiding by the guidelines of the discussion that Gorn has set up. If you have a problem with God being real and you being able to see him that would be a discussion for another thread.

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As a Christian I can only approach this from a Christians perspective. If God did come down and look me in the eyes and told me something I would feel that my faith was justified. If not he should have gone and spoken to a Hindu.

 

You mean like burning Joan of Arc or the witch burnings in Europe or the slaughter of the Cathars?

 

Thanks. Was about to post that every religious extremist who committed horrible acts in the name of some god or other, received their instructions 'telepathically'.

 

Then you shouldn't speak as if the whole world would be in trouble. They wouldn't.

 

Personally, I think it likely they simply use it as an excuse (either internally or externally) to commit acts they have the tendency to do anyway. God is not an evil force...those that follow it however, often are.

 

indeed. hence it's no trap for the atheist. most if whom HAVE really thought about gods. which is an entirely different thing to thinking about A god.

 

the complete submission to the 'authority' of a demonstrably unpleasant godhead is probably the first step on that path.

 

Why not the creater of the earth has just proven that he exists and is in my living room. I would say the world should trimble at that point. Because as Gorn said this IS God and all that that entails. This is a hypothetical discussion perhaps you could confine this within those parameters? It may be easier that way.

So how about this I ask you the same question Gorn did but with a little additive the Christian God comes before you and proves that he is real and has all the powers ascribed to him and more. What do you do?

 

May I?

I would be forced to accept my error and ask it why it waited so freakin' long....then pee my pants and bow down in submission. I would NOT torture the bay however, I would let it kill me first.

 

Gorn must be so busy making up more lies that he doesn't have time to scold his atheist friends for changing his question.

The question was "proof that God is speaking".

All the ranting about Him not being real has nothing to do with the question posed.

And people wonder why Theists don't bother with your endless question threads.....

 

I can respect that

 

What if you heard God's voice in a burning Bush?

 

Odd, Micketto....you claim that...but here YOU are endlessly posting on my thread (as well as others like Crawdadr).

So obviously that claim...is false. A lie.

Ironic (and hypocritical) since you accuse ME of being a liar.

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Or beheading journalists in the deserts of Iraq. "God" in all his names.

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So why should I worship and love a "neutral" God who is neither good nor evil? Or is loving and worshipping God not taught in Greek Orthodox?