Theists- Would you commit an evil act if God ordered you to?

Yeppir. Living things evolve. Like a child evolving into an adult. Like a caterpillar evolving into a moth or butterfly. Like a seed evolving into a fully grown plant. Did I miss anything important? Oh well. But it is nice to see that you are willing to put evolution in the same category.... laughable....

 

Except that this thread is about what believers think about passages like that, not what atheists think.

If you believe in unicorns, and I don't think they exist, I might ask you some questions about your belief, to see how you can believe something that, in my mind, is irrational. Responding "Well, you don't believe in unicorns, so problem solved" is not valid, logically speaking.

 

Well technically that isn't evolution but development.

We see bacteria evolve all of the time, to become resistant against antibiotics, and insects will evolve to keep from being wiped out by pesticides.

The hardest part of evolutionary theory to accept is one species evolving into a totally different species. Like a something the size of a rat not resembling an elephant, evolving into an elephant. Since it supposedly takes millions of years, no one can witness it and prove it. Even the fossil records don't actually prove it, but its a theory nonetheless. Sometimes when you want to remove a Creator from the picture, things get even more weird than the idea of a Creator. We know for certain that life adapts though.as long as the environmental change isn't too drastic.

 

Man has a bad habit of saying god told them to do evil things. That is how they try to justify their actions. The bible is full of these. Not only are we evil and violent, we will justify it in whatever manner is required.

When Christ didn't do the same thing, man couldn't stand it and had to write revelations to bring the killing back. We will go to great lengths to make our god a bloody thirsty god that gets off on killing what he created. LOL

 

many Theists would kill their own child if they heard voices they thought were that of their God, in fact the bible has such a story of just that happening, only the guy did not know God has a warped sense of humor and was just kidding

 

e·volve "v. e·volved, e·volv·ing, e·volves

v.tr.1. a. To develop or achieve gradually: evolve a style of one's own.

b. To work (something) out; devise: "the schemes he evolved to line his purse" (S.J. Perelman)."

"ev·o·lu·tion n.1. A gradual process in which something changes into a different and usually more complex or better form."



Need I say more?

 

I disagree. Things become more complex and the scale (of time) expands to what is, for us, an inconceivable breadth, but it's not 'weirder'.

I can't think of anything at all which is weirder than the idea that a primitive, Babylonian derived, magical sky being with a human character (and all that brings with it) created the universe in order to watch the children of nude apes on planet #9888877655548700001.3 die of starvation, disease, and war, while acting on the minor foibles of the adult apes - such as incorrect use of genitals in the absence of a special piece of paper provided by the local tribal elder.

 

So you disrespect your dad and his belief's? Or does his wife(your mom) do it when you're not around and he does his silence out of respect for her?

 

One needs to believe in human logic before one uses it.

 

Wow... what an admission if I have ever seen one. Now the dairyair is declaring that "human logic" is dependent upon the belief of humans before it become effective. That is essentially what I have been telling some of the people in this forum for the past couple of years. Thanks for the backup and support dairyair.

 

YW
99% of humans believe in human logic. The psychotic 1% have voices that give them a different logic. As the 99% are humans. I don't know what the 1% are. Numbers used aren't factual. Just a descriptive logic used to show a great amount of humans vs a tiny amount of humans and their logic and lack of logic.

 

OMG. The opening non abbreviated comment is an appeal to popularity. How nice of you. Do you believe in logic?

 

More than believe it. I use it. And it's not an appeal to popularity. That is plain ole silly. It is our humans operate.

 

It is also not proper grammar... your comment is devoid of meaning.

 

Incorporeal.....quickly...

in this entire thread, have YOU ever actually answered my question that I raised in the OP? If so, what post # was it?

 

Yeppir I sure did. However, because it is your thread, then you should have been keeping up with the postings. So do your own footwork and find it yourself.

 

When Abraham had nightmares he thought that God was speaking to him.

Genesis 15:12-21 = https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis 15:12-21&version=CJB;NLT;CEV;CEB;NKJV

 

Well, he signed an agreement before they got married that he had to allow the children from the marriage to be raised Catholic and to not interfere with our faith. He signed it out of his own free will. We didn't say the blessings at meals when growing up except for at holidays. Now, that's pretty much the only time we're around.