A member posted something a couple days that really got me thinking? Is it possible that being Gay could eventually be labeled a "Religion?" It would allow for Religious discrimination towards gays to essentially be stopped in it's tracks. Does anyone think that the Gay agenda may be looking at this as a viable move in the future? Just throwing this out there. What do ya think? Is it possible??
I think it is silly. Homosexuality is an apparently inherent and immutable characteristic. Religion is a belief in the supernatural.
The poster used Scientology as an example as to why it could be conceivable? Hey it got my attention.
You can found a religion on anything, the Church of Homer Simpson, if you wish, or the Church Of The six gun... Only the imagination limits.
A personal preference is not a religion. "Religion" isn't some empty word which can be manipulated whenever it's politically convenient. The word has a meaning. Unless we want to forget all that, er, minor stuff about deities and consider my obsession with bearded guys a religion, as well as every other sexual preference...no, sexual attraction to someone of the same sex as you is not a religion.
I don't see why not. Progressives have created a religion from thier ideology. They have replaced God with big government and socialism. They worship these things just as much if not more than any bible thumper. Once that threshold has been crossed its not much of a jump to include the possibilities of gays someday believing the same fallacy.
My point being that if the LGBT lifestyle can be manipulated into a so called "Religion" than the 1st amendment would apply...with all the protections that come with it. The other day when a poster mentioned this idea "off the cuff" it really got me thinking. I do not discount this as something Progressives are most likely educating themselves on for future LGBT advancement. Amendment I. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
Legally it's whatever you declare it to be. It can be and is part of religion. Argue with WBC about it.
Legally, anything could be anything. In some countries and in the past, homosexuality was legally a mental disease. That doesn't make it one. Part of, yes - but not a religion itself.
If I want to found a Religion, I can. I may have ZERO followers, but that is entirely another matter. I do have a feeling that the Church of free beer and hamburger would have many devout Devotees.
Nope, I am a gay man who is at least somewhat familiar with the 'agenda' and no one that I know is remotely interested in claiming homosexuality is religious based.
Homosexuality is neither a "lifestyle" nor a religion. Still... there are religions which do not see homosexuality as a sin, and they embrace people who are gay.
Oh my gawd, really? Don't people have anything better to do than speculating about 'being gay eventually being labeled as a religion'? Even if something like that were to happen, guess what, if you don't want to 'believe in it'...then don't support, join or otherwise become a member of such a church. How fricken' simply is that, I ask you?
Boy do I see your point!! Still, I think the larger concern/argument with some... is unless "religion" fits a more traditional or standard "Christian" view... they are exceedingly wary of it. That is, if anything about that "religion" is coded into 'law', it should match THEIR particular expectations and/or beliefs. I think that is really what those with the most extreme of wacky views are likely concerned about. If they would think outside of their little closed-minded boxes... they'd realize the most reasonable stance would be to SEPARATE RELIGION from the POWER of STATE, as much as possible (Separation of Church/State). But no... there too many extremists (Christians mostly), who want the 'power' of 'law' approving of their prejudices and beliefs. (They wouldn't like it so much if Muslims, Buddhists or Native Americans push for the same level of influence.) So, for those certain (extreme) people, what is defined as "religion" matters greatly.
HA HA HA!!!! From the Church of Conservatism where disagreement on even the tiniest of doctrine is sufficient to be excommunicated. Perry believes in compassion toward the children of illegals. Excommunicated! Huntsman believes in science. Excommunicated! Christie doesn't hate Obama. Excommunicated! The gods of "conservatism" are many and the failure to bow to them all always leads to excommunication. You guys like to call it "primaried," but the effect is the same.
Another thought. Some people are so Constitutionally ignorant. They don't even know that it DOES NOT define 'religion'/ (or) what religion is.
It's apparent that some people do not understand what being gay is: Attraction to members of one's own sex. Period. This is the only characteristic that all gay people have in common. As such, it has none of the identifying characteristics of religion. It's also ridiculous to characterise it as a "LGBT lifestyle", as one's orientation does not dictate anything about one's lifestyle. Nevermind the fact that no person is an "LGBT". As a gay man, the only thing in that string of letters that has any application to me is the G(ay) part. I am not a L(esbian), B(isexual), or T(ransgender) identified person. No, because there isn't any such thing as "the Gay agenda". This is just a bogeyman that illustrates how one-dimensional and limited some people's understanding of other people's differences can be. What this boils down to is an apparent inability to appreciate the diversity present within a community outside one's own. Gay people aren't all alike. We are not the Borg; we do not have 'hive mind'. And we don't have a 'gay religion'. The individuals who compose the set of people having same-sex orientations each have their own beliefs. Regardless of whether one finds it agreeable, they are Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, and yes - Muslims. Pagans and atheists and whatever other kinds of religions exist. This serves to illustrate just how completely ridiculous it is to think that "gay" would be its own religion. You would NEVER find gay people universally practicing a singular religion even if some fractional subset of the gay population tried to invent one and assert that it was somehow related to their orientation.
To me, it boils down to a point where closely held beliefs can become a hindrance or even dangerous, if/when they are 'imposed' upon those other than the person holding them. In a modern society (as America is), we should above all, be cognizant of the pitfalls of biasing the nation's laws toward any given set of closely held beliefs. It can (and has) led to some seriously stifling effects overall. In the days when I was a much more religious person, I could likely find fault (sin) in anyone and be prejudiced against them in many cases. I eventually accepted that I had to live with others in this less-than-perfect world (which included myself). There are liars, adulterers (many divorced people), warmongers, the greedy... you name it. ALL people have sin in their lives... from what I was taught about religion (my closely held beliefs). These individuals and States who see fit to write-in or impose by law the religious preferences of a particular set (group) of 'believers', are engaging in a mistake which ultimately has crippling legal effects upon society. Essentially, these anti-LGBT laws are giving many bigoted or narrow-minded people a nod of 'approval' from the State. It's a Pandora's Box America will be sorting out for a very long time... if we don't put a stop to it soon.