Could being Gay be a Religion?

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  1. Vegas giants

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    Your position is laughable. You can be fired for being gay. If you claim being gay is part of your religion you can still be fired. You can be fired if you say watching football is part of your religion. You can be fired if you say showing up to work late is part of your religion. But you can not be fired for saying you are Christian. That is the difference. And that son is a fact.

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    Prove L Ron Hubbard was inflexible. You have no evidence for the claim you make. If it were true every company could simply claim they are a religion to not pay taxes. The government gets to decide what is a valid religion. That is simply a fact.
     
  2. Polydectes

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    No, the first amendment forbids them from doing that.

    You calling me a coward is merely a pathetic ad hominem attack. It's libel. And libel is a written form of slander. As Socrates says, "when the debate is lost slander becomes the weapon of the loser."

    In your delusion perhaps.

    Yes, abd scientology is clearly a scam, so the government criteria has nothing to do with legitimate religion.

    Any person not part of scientology understand that.
     
  3. Vegas giants

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    All religions are a scam. Yours is just certified by the government. And that is also a fact. LOL
     
  4. Polydectes

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    The position that the constitution is the supreme law is laudable?

    Seems you don't understand the first thing about our nation.

    First, in some places you cannot be. Second, I never once argued that you couldn't be fired fire being gay. I said you couldn't be fired because of your religion.

    We're going around in circles here. You keep up with straw man fallacies and idiotic statements.

    I can't be fired for being Christian, that's my religion, not being gay. So please I'm sick of the loop of foolishness. Stop with the straw man fallacies.

    Of course but not fit my religious beliefs.

    Cite president
    Yeah.
    Any interpretation thereof.
     
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    I think GM, Apple and Google should just claim they are religions. I mean the government can't decide they are not.....right? LOL
     
  6. Polydectes

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    Oh it's a fact is it?

    Prove all religions are a scam?

    Now we are going to have some fun

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    No they can't. However if they are a for profit business they won't attain tax exemption.
     
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    Nope. All an employer has to do is say you are being fired for being gay. You may claim that being gay is part of your Christianity. ALL HE HAS TO SAY IS I AM NOT FIRING YOU FOR BEING A CHRISTIAN I AM FIRING YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE GAY. Case closed.
     
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    I will HAPPILY prove all religions are a scam right after you prove scientology is a scam. You said it was.....prove it. By the way....why is it NOW a government recognized religion?
     
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    You can fire a Jew for wearing a hat, because he is wearing a hat. Regardless of whether that hat is part of his religion.

    What is your point?
     
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    You have to pay a fee for a consultation to become a member.

    Btw,
    The government doesn't recognize religions. They're forbidden from doing that.
     
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    Not if he can prove that wearing the hat is part of a RECOGNIZED religion and it does not interfere with his work in any way. A Sikh US military officer was recently allowed to wear his turban while on duty for this reason. You cite ONE case where someone said being gay is part of a recognized religion and won in court and I will happily concede.

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    You have to pay a fee for a baptism in many catholic churchs. You MUST pay the fee or they will not perform the service. Keep trying.
     
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    I do not think so, though many Christians are Gay
     
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    I'm one of those 'Christians' you just mentioned.
     
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    Bull, a donation is not a fee, if you are poor, it will be free.
     
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    Why is this question so hard? If scientology is a scam why are they recognized by the government now?
     
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    Actually, a yarmulke is not a hat, it is akin to wearing a cross or a Catholic Cardinals cap.
    Even the Courts do not ask Jews to remove head gear as it is a religious observance and thereby exempt from the hat rule in Court, I know this as a Jew, not from
    Google foo.

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    I never said or implied anything about Scientology.
    There is a easy method to filing a religion.
     
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    The point is it is from a recognized religion. You could not go into court with a football helmet on and say wearing it is part of your religion.

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    Filing may be easy. Being accepted for tax exempt status if you are not from a recognized religion is VERY difficult.
     
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    WRONG.
    You can start a brand new religion.

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    Very easy !
     
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    Of course you can. But to be accepted by the government it will need to have its own dogma, a certain number of members, organized services....etc. The Church of Monday Night Football is not a real church. It is NOT easy without all of that.
     
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    False again,, that violates the First Amendment.
     
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    This question is for you. Tell me EXACTLY why it took 25 years for scientology to be recognized a religion when it had a whole team of lawyers working on it.
     
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    Why should I ?
    It is a done deal.

    If you do NOT meet simple criteria, you have problems, as far as Taxes go.
     
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    Many people have tried to test this and set up fake religions as tax shelters. It never works
     
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    Key words, fake, fraud.

    I said, "NEW RELIGION". Not Fake, no fraud, no cheating.

    Outlandish ? perhaps.
     
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    Fake and fraud apply to all religions. LOL

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    I guess it isn't so simple even with high powered lawyers.
     

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