Kindly explain Communism

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  1. crank

    crank Well-Known Member

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    Bloody hell .. no it's not. Nearing did it in the damned 30's.

    Have you actually studied socialism? Because it strikes me that you'd know the macro-nation-state varietal is only one iteration - if you had.
     
  2. Kode

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    You assume too much, and you think your assumptions define what and who I am.

    Sanders said he was a "socialist in the tradition of FDR". FDR boasted that he "saved capitalism". Sanders is not against capitalism, so you have no example for me. Alinsky was not in the Democratic Party and we were talking about "Democrats".

    So it zero for 1. Try again.
     
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    They "were and now are" abject FAILURES.
     
  4. Kode

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    And that shows the shallowness, or maybe the bias, of your understanding. You didn't get what he was saying and I suspect you don't want to get it.
     
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    Some of these souls look decidedly un-starving. What gives?
     
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    Not publicly.
     
  7. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are you sure you aren't referring to the Germans ?

    Pay attention at 2:10

     
  8. crank

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    Leave my Bernie alone!
     
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  9. Chester_Murphy

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    In Scandinavia they are doing well. Though it's a weird socialism that uses capitalism in some way to supplement income losses from socialism. They guide the unemployed in education for best results in the areas of work they think are going to need more employees. Right now, they are doing alright in how they feed the population and take care of them. Housing is nice. Health care is good. They have freedoms we don't, but they are more like vices, than freedoms. That's how they help the citizens to feel like they are free. If they can stop and have a joint or a clean hooker, if they can be considered clean, or other vices some have been promoting in this country, then they feel like that's all they ever wanted anyway and they are happy.

    This country must change a bit more to get there. It's moving that direction. Male masculinity, traditional roles and so forth are mostly gone.
     
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    In communist or socialist regimes, the elites are nice and well-fed (think the portly Kim Jong Un!), while the masses starve. Not very egalitarian, if you ask me.
     
  11. Chester_Murphy

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    And those are your goals. I guess.
     
  12. Kode

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    Then you know about the success of the Mondragon Corporation, right? It contradicts what you just said, BIGLY.
     
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    It's not much that they can't but that they don't want to. With communism the social elite, which is composed of the high functionaries of the state and the political leaders, can basically do whatever they want, since there is no opposition. As i see it, it is a rather convenient way to impose the rule of an elite, without the need to worry about the opposition because there is no one.

    You see where communisms leads in the long run, economy collapses eventually, and people will rebel
     
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    These types of leftists NEVER put themselves personally on the line; not with their lives and certainly not with their fortunes. But naturally then they are the types to mouth off about how, "You did not build that," re-Barack Obama's economic and idealistic philosophy.
     
  15. Kode

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    DUH You can't know that if it never existed. See how little sense you make? Add that to how little you know about this.
     
  16. FreedomSeeker

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    Your boy Bernie can take my hard-earned income from me (to give to welfare bums) when we can pry it from my cold dead hands!

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    Like Unicorns, "true communism" has never existed. Neither ever will.
     
  18. Chester_Murphy

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    I never looked into these corps very deeply. I have read about them. They may or may not be completely communist. I'd have to know how they do everything, not just their success and how the workers do things. There is likely a ruling class and that eliminates them as truly communist.

    They are close, though.
     
  19. Kode

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    Why don't you find out via civil, intelligent discussion?
    You're so afraid of the truth that you have to launch a personal attack on me in hope of intimidating me.
     
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  20. Gatewood

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    Yes, but they are profoundly ignorant because all they know is what the leftist controlled public educational system teaches them and for some odd reason those very same educators sugarcoat what Marxism and Communism actually means to the people having to live that miserable way of life.
     
  21. Chester_Murphy

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    Barn gun with a heck of a drop at the butt. Probably Bedford county, but not sure. Probably after the 18th century.
     
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    No, look at the Scandinavian model. It's what they hope to bring. I still think they are selling a plutocratic oligarchy, and those followers are being used.
     
  23. Kode

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    See how "informed" you are? You're implying that the first Marxist revolution was 180,000 years ago.

    It's proving to be pointless to attempt to engage the fearful and biased in intelligent conversation.
     
  24. Kode

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    And you're a mind reader, eh? LOL!!!!
     
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    No, of course not - it's just that they've had 180,000 years to make some kind of collectivist system work, and it arguably never has, so it's probably not ever GOING to. Time to face reality, folks - communism, like religion, will ultimately fail.
     

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