There has been. no. communism. and you don't know it. There has been grossly failed attempts at socialism by some operating on what they believed to be conclusions of communist ideology. And you don't know what I just said.
So, on a scale from anarchy on the left to total government control on the right, it almost comes around in a complete circle to anarchy. It produces folks who would gladly take anarchy over what they would have.
Friedrich Engels ... 1st self loathing, privileged, caucasian male. His philosophy is as valuable today, as the day it was written. Worthless.
Take a guess why no people in CUBA frequent this forum - that's because communism is so horrific that they RESTRICT most internet access! The BBC reported "Cuba internet access still severely restricted" http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-35865283 Two communist countries have nukes pointed at us, so of course we need to defeat communism.
I completely REJECT what communist parties have done in Russia, China, and elsewhere. There. Can we get past that now? Can we put it behind us and get on to the facts? COMMUNISM. NEVER. EXISTED. ANYWHERE. And you don't know why that is true because you know nothing about it other than your assimilated propaganda. I'm trying to help you get past it!
There has been (and still is) PLENTY of communism. If the only form you're aware of is that practiced in the 20thC by a few rogue nations, you are most definitely lacking in information.
Funny, wikipedia, under "Communism", has like 25 screen-fulls of information on communism - if YOU were correct they'd only have one sentence: "Communism has never existed anywhere". Funny that.
Well you see, to implement communism you HAVE to suppress people's freedom first and foremost. They are supposed to become servants, dependant individuals, who don't make questions and are forbidden to think freely. If they were free to express themselves, then communism could not work. The state tells you what to do and what is right and wrong.
You were never in a "fully functioning communist country". That would require that the country went through many generations of socialism and the state machinery and the classes "withered away", and that can't happen unless the rest of the world is also socialist. You're confusing communist parties and their policies, with classless, stateless communist society.
This sentence sums up ALL we need to know about communism: If we lived in a communist nation, we would not be allowed to write on this forum!
THANK YOU! A very good and succinct explanation. Even when VOLUNTARY, this truth applies. It simply does not work unless all members of the collective conform. At least when it's voluntary, this is clearly understood and accepted. FTR though, it can and does work, when all are in agreement. It takes a certain kind of person to stomach such a rigid and regulated life, but they do exist.
Quite true. And, you guys know @Kode and I do not agree much. Real communism must evolve naturally. To get there, they need to start with something. They try socialism. It doesn't usually make enough money, so they use some capitalism mixed in. Once they go to socialism, they have to have a dictator, usually. At that point, things go wrong. Greed comes into play. Socialism isn't allowed to turn into communism. Only places I think it works is like a church organization of some kind, usually ending in suicide or terrible things, within a traditional family, or within a school system. But, I am wrong. Not everyone works and some have more than others. I can't think of a place it works. Have to agree with him. Sorry, I was thinking aloud, there.
Damn those FAKE communists!! Damn those FAKE Muslims of ISIS, Al Qaeda, Boko Haram, Hamas, Al Shabob, Taliban, Islamic Jihad, Abu Sayaf, etc., etc., etc., etc. etc., etc., etc., etc.....who happen to be the most PIOUS Muslims of all, strangely.
Give it up, both of you. You are the ones without a clue. Name for me one Democrat who wants to end capitalism and establish socialism. ONE!
They have no clue. Vain morons. They are the very last people who will tolerate relentless toil in exchange for the basics. And I say that AS a socialist.
Yes, like religions, communism tells you what to THINK. If you don't think like they do, then TORTURE follows ("lake of fire", or a communist gulag, etc.) They are too inferior, intellectually, to be able to handle the marketplace of ideas....or, uh, ANY marketplace, for that matter.