Fad Or The Future? Robot-Made Burgers Wow The Crowds In San Francisco

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  1. Meta777

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    How would you achieve all of that?

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    You aren't following. Do you believe it is achievable? The debate begins after that question is answered.
     
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    when they eliminate all the min wage jobs, that is a lot of people without jobs, then people vote in socialism... when the majority want socialism, we will have it

    corporate greed may just be the driver to socialism in the future

    I think the country is about to go bk at some point in future anyways, our over-response to 911 has hurt us biggly, maybe we will restart as a socialist country... hopefully long after I am gone as it will be a painful transition
     
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    In bold above there are not that many jobs that can be eliminated by automation. We've had varying forms of automation for decades and how many jobs have actually been lost? This discussion should not be doom and gloom? Automation enhances and complements labor towards something better than the status quo. Advancing technology probably effects more jobs than automation, yet both technology and automation are required for growth...
     
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    in order to become a socialist country, we will need a wall, guess we know where republicans plan to take this county, the republican version is two classes, the rich and then the rest of us..... course there are more of the rest of "us" and once that happens, people will vote them out

    they may even start a number of kids per parent limit, when government decides if you give birth or not, they can also choose 'not'
     
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    automation, online sales and foreign outsourcing are eliminating many jobs
     
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    Why do marxists need a wall to achieve their socialist nirvana?
     
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    That's what the welfare system is partially about. Helping displaced workers.
    Remember how many workers it took to plant a corn field a century ago?
    Now it's 1 and machines.
    Someday, that 1 will go away with self driving tractors.
     
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    And near 100% on gov't sustenance.
    The RW haters of those who need govt assistance will one day be one. Or their kids and grandkids.

    And in another topic, tRUMP placed a min wage of $16/hr on labor for auto mfgs in the agreement with Mexico. Oops, a min wage.
     
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    Sounds like you have an impressive resume, my compliments, I have done similar. While at this time the tools are not available to perform the tasks that does not mean the future of our industry cannot be automated, 5th generation languages are already here.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth-generation_programming_language
    While fourth-generation programming languages are designed to build specific programs, fifth-generation languages are designed to make the computer solve a given problem without the programmer.
     
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    gotta keep people from getting in to have a socialist society, if no low labor jobs, don't need the foreign labor - isn't that why Trump is building his wall, to socialize this country into two classes, the rich and the poor
     
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    Maybe but I don't see the connection. Capitalism generally works off supply and demand theory. In the short run a spike in unemployment causes prices to decrease. In the long run the correction is to decrease production to raise prices which usually leads to a decrease demand for labor. I see the market forces adding to the problem more so than correcting it. Usually to combat these problems there has to be some type of government intervention such as increase spending or decrease in the interest rates, (depending or which form of economic theory you support), to stimulate growth but that is not really a force of capitalism.
     
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    The enemies are the left.
     
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    Societies move toward the left as they advance. Guess which countries have the most taxes? The developed world including Europe and the US does. Even Eastern Asian countries that have recently advanced have become socialistic as well. The reality is that as nations become richer there is more disposable income to create a safety net for the nation. A more technologically advanced country requires a bigger government to ensure that consumers and the nation is benefited by the free market rather than just the rich and big corporations. Machines take jobs, and the internet makes many things free which is driving us from socialism to communism.
     
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    Advance to what????
     
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    As they advance in technology and wealth.
     
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    Sure, Lawyers would be much easier than doctors. There are reams of case law to learn from. Most of it written. Piece of cake.
     
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    Actually the wall keeping low wage people from mexico out is good for low wage Americans

    There will be more jobs for them at higher wages

    But maybe some libs prefer not to work and this idea will only appeal to conservatives
     
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    You do understand that 'assistance' isn't a basis of life time income, correct?

    Of course virtually everybody it's a rough patch, and needs some help while hitting the restart button on their lives. It's those who don't bother hitting the restart button that become the problem.

    Do you understand what a 'minimum wage' is, and what it does?
     
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    As strange as this is coming from me, those who come or become illegal in the US, but 'obtain' a social security number to work, aren't cheaply paid labor. Those that work 'under the table' are usually paid the going rate minus the cost of wages (ER taxes, WC ins).

    I'm not sure where people get the idea that illegal labor is so cheap, that has not been my experience or information learned from FDoL reports.
     
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    America offers economic oppertunity for everyone who is willing to work for it

    60 years after LBJ. launched his War on Poverty we have more people on the dole than ever before

    Which makes me think there sould be no welfare of any kind for able bodied people
     
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    Some would say that illegals work harder than the marginal American who just missed getting on welfare by THAT much

    Those employers prefer illegals when they can get them
     
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    If you've ever had the thrill of going through a FDoL audit, or even one by the SDoL, you'd understand one doesn't usually 'intentionally' hire an illegal, unless they are some sort of strange masochist.

    Those that do that 'day laborer' thing can get away with a lot under the heading of casual labor (but are not exempt from scrutiny of the DoL), but they aren't cheap labor, and I do agree with you, they usually put forth more effort into the work than most legal workers.
     
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    Many illegal alien employers are hispanic American citizens and subcontractors who then provide services to larger companies
     
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    Well, having been around food processors for 30+ years, I'd say the crew that has to clean Burger Bot every day (Shift?) is going to need to be paid something.

    Then there is the breakdowns, clogs, etc..

    So, Fad. Good for the burger joint short term though. Free press is always good for business.
     
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