Kamala Harris Shakes Head After Trump Calls for Stopping Drug Cartels, Human Trafficking

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  1. Eleuthera

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    Everybody but Carter was complicit in the CIA's drug activity, especially the Bush family.

    I'm not sure of your point. Reagan went with just say no, except when his boys were importing cocaine.
     
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    So now that you know that Trump is capable of pulling off what other Presidents have promised to do and failed to do... you give him no opportunity to pull off an enormous win for the people of the United States and Mexico by thwarting the Cartels and bringing them down? Please get out of the way.

    People Who Say It Cannot Be Done Should Not Interrupt Those Who Are Doing It - Maybe Confucius
     
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    Sometimes it's best when you see something...don't do or say anything.


    COL. JAMES E. SABOW
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    Colonel James E. Sabow, U.S. Marine Corps




    Case Report Open Access
    The Homicide of United States Marine Corps Colonel, James E. Sabow: A Forensic Analysis Submitted to the United States Congress
    Bryan R Burnett*
    Meixa Tech, Cardiff, USA

    *Corresponding Author:
    Bryan R BurnettJournal of Forensic Research

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    Abstract


    The official position of the United States Government is Marine Corps Colonel James E. Sabow committed suicide. He allegedly died by an intraoral shotgun discharge in the backyard of his quarters on the El Toro Marine Corps Air Station, Orange County, California, USA in 1991. However, questions have persisted since the Colonel’s death whether he died by homicide. The two scenarios on the manner of death, suicide and homicide, were evaluated as to the gunshot residue (GSR) and back spatter residue (BSR) on the Colonel’s clothing, the bloodstains on and off the body and the position of the body at the death scene. The shotgun, when test fired, was shown to leak GSR from its breech and trigger housing. Samples from the Colonel’s clothing were analysed by scanning electron microscopy/energy dispersive X-ray analysis show there are no concentrations of GSR or BSR on the clothing that should be present if the Colonel committed suicide. Bloodstains on and away from the body and the position of the body do not support the suicide scenario, The Colonel’s body was staged to appear he committed suicide. There is no evidence of suicide. The Colonel’s death was a homicide.



    Keywords
    Forensic science; Crime scene reconstruction; Gunshot residue; Back spatter residue; Homicide; Shotgun; Staged suicide

    Introduction
    On January 22, 1991, Marine Corps Colonel James E. Sabow was found dead in the backyard of his quarters at the United States Marine Corps Air Station, El Toro, California, USA. He was on his right side dressed in a white terrycloth bathrobe, white undershirt, light blue pajama bottom, white socks and black slippers (Figure 1). The death certificate issued the next day by the Orange County Coroner, California, USA, concluded the Colonel had died by suicide [1]. The death was alleged to be by an intraoral shotgun discharge. The close proximity of the victim’s shotgun (Ithaca 12 gauge double barrel shotgun) to his body (Figure 1) as well as a patio chair on top of him supported a suicide scenario at first impression. However, bloodstains away from the body, the autopsy report and photographs and the death scene photographs indicate homicide. This article will examine the evidence and reconstruct the manner death of the Colonel.

    2] submitted to the Department of Defense and the Congress. That report concluded the Colonel committed suicide.

    The present article, an alternative forensic report to Nordby’s report, was financed in part by the Sabow family and submitted in 2006 to Congressman Hunter who left office in 2007 without comment on the conclusions of this report. The Congressman has refused any comment since on the manner of the Colonel’s death despite being presented with irrefutable evidence of homicide.

    In 2012 one of the autopsy photographs released by the United States Department of Defense was discovered to be fraudulent [3]. This fraudulent photograph was generated from the Department of Defense for use in a civil case in United States Federal Court in 1994. A second version of the fraudulent photograph [3] was used by Nordby in his report to the Department of Defense and the US Congress [2] to support his conclusion the Colonel committed suicide. Nordby generate two reports [2,4] in this case. Both were seriously flawed in most other aspects of his analysis.

    T?he Suicide and Homicide Scenarios
    Suicide

    The Colonel committed suicide with his Ithaca 12 gauge double barrel shotgun by sitting in a chair placing the shotgun in his mouth. The shotgun muzzle was held at his mouth with his left hand and he pushed the trigger with a finger or the thumb of his right hand (Figure 2A). The position of the body (Figures 1 and 3) suggests consistent with this scenario, the shotgun was held outside his right leg and after the shot, he somehow fell backward from the chair and onto his right side causing the patio chair to upset and land on top of him. This is the theory promulgated by Nordby [2,4]. The death scene is illustrated in Figure 3 which also shows the suicide interpretation of the Colonel’s death.

    2,4], both of which concluded suicide, were not convincing due to many flaws which will be discussed. The author conducted an independent study with the assistance of Dr. David Sabow, the brother of the Colonel and a forensic neurologist, which resulted in this report to Congressman Duncan Hunter. The gunshot residue (GSR), backspatter residue (BSR), bloodstain examination and crime scene observations are presented here.

    MacLachlan [6] examined the pathology. Revealed in his study was evidence of a depressed right occipital skull fracture which was shown to have occurred prior to the intraoral shotgun discharge. The Colonel had received a strong blow by a club to the back of his head prior to the intraoral shotgun blast. The study presented here examines the GSR and BSR by scanning electron microscopy, the bloodstains on and around the body and the positions of the body and clothing.

    Gunshot and Back Spatter Residues

    continue -> https://www.omicsonline.org/open-ac...ates-congress-2157-7145-1000362.php?aid=85095
     
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    Yeah, it's ridiculous. Or they are letting the pressure build so they can get a buttload of confessions.

    Pelosi is shrewd. It's gonna be a fun 2 years to watch.
     
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    that was easy, Jews are the chosen ones and most of America is Christian

    banning the cartels will be harder because mexicans make Americans richer with cheap labor, and give them happiness with drugs.
     
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    So what is her solution to stop human trafficking on the border? I’m guessing she has none, like most do-nothing-but-say-no-to-trump Democrats. That meme needs to be posted again and again. There are too many lives being ruined by our inaction. Get the **** out of the way if you guys don’t want to do anything about it. I know, those illegal immigrant votes pouring across the border are far more important than some young girl’s lives. Sickening.
     
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    It's one of those things that falls along the lines of his promise to eliminate the national debt completely. It's a wonderful idea in theory, but realistically speaking we know he won't accomplish it.
     
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    President Calls On Congress to Put Drug, Human Traffickers Out of Business - Kamala-Toe Harris Shakes Her Head "No"

    Why can't we stop the illegal human trafficking over our border? Why do you accept it? Why do Democrats actively work to keep the illegal rape routes in operation?

    Where would our nation be today if the GOP would have just accepted Democrats holding their fellow human beings in slavery?
     
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    Democrats are all about Slavery, Human Trafficking, and the abuse of illegal aliens if it means they remain or gain power.
     
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    Again, just like the idea of completely eliminating the national debt, it would be fantastic if someone could deliver an idea that would actually make it happen, but realistically speaking we know they’re not going to deliver anything that would
     
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    Thanks for that. I think I had heard of that case. He didn't play ball with the soldier smugglers, and paid the price. It happens. Yes, the drug prohibition is the gift that keeps on giving, or taking.
     
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    It’s estimated that almost 80% of all illegal alien females are sexually assaulted on the journey to the border. Exact figures are hard to come by, but some organizations have estimated that the percentage of sexual assaults for men and children are around half that.

    Even if these figures are double the reality, it still means 4 in 10 women and 1 in 5 men and children of either sex will be sexually assaulted on the journey to our border. Any nation that would allow that is barbarous. Any rational observer would classify this as an “emergency.”

    Reducing that carnage by any amount is worth the investment. Why are Democrats so wholeheartedly committed to maintaining all these uncontrolled illegal entry points, between the legal entry points?

    Do you not care about this mass rape because the victims don't look like your wives, daughters, mothers, sisters and brothers, rather they look like your maids and gardeners?
     
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    Progressives love their subjects. Illegals just offer more of them, introduce more problems to solve, and justification for their heavy hand....
     
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    She's just frustrated because she can't figure out who to sleep with to become president.
     
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    The hypocrisy of you of all people complaining about someone posting the same thing multiple times is comedy gold.
     
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    ROFL! She hasn't an original idea in her head. She will get roasted in any debate. It should be fun to watch.
     
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    I was interviewed by authorities after Col. Sabow's death (murder)

    Every aircraft has it's own distinctive sound and back in the day I could identify an aircraft in the air by its sound without seeing it.

    During the 80's and early 90's I lived in San Juan Capistrano right over the flight path for all aircraft landing at MCAS El Toro.

    I thought it was strange to wake up in the early morning hours (0200-0300) hearing one KC-130 flying above towards MCAS El Toro thinking it was refueling Marine F-4, A-4, A-6 or FA-18 conducting night time operations but never hearing those aircraft approaching to land at El Toro. A few years later just before Col. Sabow's death I was aboard MCAS El Toro. After having lunch at the OC Club I had business at the base Provost Marshal's office and was walking along the roadway that ran behind the tarmac and hangers and noticed these military sea containers behind a hanger that were stacked up hiding something.

    I saw what was a tail section sticking up at one end behind the containers and maybe six feet of a nose section of a plane at the other end of the containers.

    At first I thought it was a B-26 bomber but the B-26 has two tails. I approached the containers to take a closer look and what I saw was a Douglas A-26 Invader painted in low visibility grey with no markings, none at all.

    I told myself I'm seeing something I'm not suppose to be seeing and kept my mouth shut.

    The A-26, C-123 and C-130's are the aircraft of choice by the CIA.

    It ends up the A-26 was stolen from the David Monthan AFB boneyard. Only one organization is capable of stealing an aircraft from the boneyard.

    A few days later the XO of MCAS El Toro, Col. Sabow learned of the A-26 and that during the early morning hours that a C-130 was landing at El Toro doing who knows what and then taking off before revelle. These C-130's were landing and taking off in the early morning hours for more than a few years and nobody was aware of it ???

    Col. Sabow went bananas and a few days later he was found dead in his backyard.
     
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    Thanks for sharing that. I live in the O.C. currently, but grew up outside of Sacramento. My across the street neighbor was a Full Bird Colonel with the Air Force, but actually worked for "Air America" according to my step father who figured it out through some drinking with this Colonel. My step dad was a bush pilot years back in Alaska. Anyways, I know they were running drugs from Asia and Central America, but I didn't know anything more than that. I am guessing that is what was going on at El Toro back in the day.
     
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    My 'lyin' eyes' see the man to her left speaking to her. And then she shakes her head. So it could be her reaction to Trump's ridiculous hyperbole, or a response to the man speaking to her.
     
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    Thanks for all that. I had read of that case before, but can't remember where.

    A buddy of mine in RVN had already done 2 tours flying helicopters in dustoff. He obtained employment with Air America, returned stateside to separate and came back. He stopped in twice in the next few months, and we all drank beer and ate popcorn at the officer's club. Oldest guy in the group was about 25. We were all shocked to find out that part of his new job was flying opium around SE Asia.
     
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    The same way Mexican officials are against stopping them. Where else would they get their money from=) Can't stop the gravy train...

    And we could eliminate drug trafficking in a week. Drone every source/location we know. Can't mass produce drugs in Mexico without someone knowing. Destroy all their manufacturing and anyone involved and who's going to risk their lives when they'll be next? Drug dealers do it for the money. They won't live in caves like terrorists do in the ME. If they can't get rich doing it they won't. We kill them and they can't enjoy their money=) You make making drugs a death sentence and you easily solve the problem. The Mexican govt protects them. THEY want their cut. We simply say FU to the Mexican leadership. Let them choose who they want to be business with. The U.S. or cartels. Sure, it'll cut off their personal money supply, but then maybe new people will move in a clean up that **** hole once they know they don't have to deal drug lords threatening them?
     
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    The only thing fake here is Harris faking an orgasm with Willie Brown who was 33 years her senior but did get her positioned correctly (pardon the pun) politically.
     
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    It may prove correct that our politicians are so wedded to this incredibly damaging Open Borders Position because they have been bought off by the Cartels, who are now blackmailing them for their graft.

    The President's position is unassailable.

    Pelosi Outsmarted Herself on the SOTU.

    By the time he entered the House chamber, it was already obvious that the national audience would very likely exceed last year’s larger-than-usual viewership for such speeches. This is not typical for the SOTU address. The normal pattern is a reasonably large audience for a president’s first address, followed by a gradual decline in public interest each year thereafter. This was certainly true for Trump’s predecessor. Tuesday evening’s speech, however, drew a larger audience than did the President’s 2018 address. According to a report in the Hill, broadcast TV numbers from Nielsen show the audience share was 10 percent over last year’s speech:

    The four major broadcast outlets — CBS, NBC, ABC and Fox — combined for a 16.3 overnight rating during the address Tuesday night, which could result in total viewership of approximately 49 million when final numbers, to include the cable news networks and other outlets, are in later Wednesday.

    Moreover, CBS and CNN conducted polls of public reaction to Trump’s words and the vast majority of viewers liked what they heard. The CBS/YouGov poll found that 76 percent of the public approved of the address, including 97 percent of Republicans and a whopping 82 percent of Independents. And a majority of viewers agreed that the President accomplished one of his primary goals for the address — improving national unity. According to CBS, “Fifty-six percent of Americans who watched tonight feel the president’s speech will do more to unite the country.” On specific issues, an unambiguous majority of viewers agreed with the President.​

    It isn’t just that Trump had the stronger arguments, or that the Democrats behaved badly. Almost just as important — and as subtext, probably the most important element — is that Trump looked like he was having fun up there.

    That’s no small thing, especially after eight years of Obama, who never looked like he enjoyed these things and eight years of Bush, who wasn’t often very good at them.
     
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    Again, it's not about opposing the notion of reducing drug and human trafficking, it is the faulty notion of being able to completely eliminate it. Imagine if another politician were on that stage and said they were going to completely eradicate poverty. I'm sure many people would applaud, but from a more pragmatic point of view, people would also shake their heads.. NOT because they are against reducing poverty, but because they know realistically speaking, the person on stage isn't really going to be able to dish out any ideas that would actually bring poverty to 0. We must be more pragmatic on what policies will work, and how well they will work. We don't pass government policies based on their intentions and goals alone, but rather their effectiveness and efficiency. Otherwise we would simply pass every policy proposed

    In regards to drug trafficking, we haven't even been able to keep our prisons free of drug trafficking. Imagine the kind of security that would be needed to keep an entire country free of drug trafficking. More than this, according to the DEA, the vast majority of the drugs smuggled into the US come in through legal points of entry.

    In regards to human trafficking, according to the Human Trafficking Legal Center, 2/3rd of human trafficking victims are US citizens... and the majority of foreign born human trafficking victims came into the US on visas.

    We absolutely should take action to reduce these crimes, but we also must be more pragmatic on what policies will actually work. It's the rational thing to do
     
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    She got her start in politics as a sex worker, why would she want to deny others the opportunity? Plus, if the dems don't let in sex trafficked kids, Hollywood liberals would have to go back to raping child stars and then why would the Hollywood libs pay democrats to get into office?
     

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