Kamala Harris Shakes Head After Trump Calls for Stopping Drug Cartels, Human Trafficking

My cynical view is that such behavior will never be stopped, but I will condemn the practice at every opportunity, and I admire your dignity and compassion.

I studied a bit about the old Stanford Prison Experiments which tested human behavior and interaction in prison/authoritarian settings. The dark side of humans is not pleasant to observe.

 

Maybe you could start by posting an imaginary study showing illegal immigrants are more involved in crime than the rest of society?

 

you actually attempting to blame the opioid epidemic on Trump? It start way before Trump
Two factors caused the epidemic both under Obama over prescribing opioid pain killers by doctors and the cheep and abundant supply of illegal opioids crossing the Mexican border two which Obama did nothing to help solve at least Trump is attempting to cut out the cheap abundant supply

the divide is caused by the left
yes under Obama there were many on the right very unhappy with Obama but no where close to the venomous vile hate we are experience daily from the left with Trump and his supporter
no one was throwing Obama supporters out of restaurants and bars crowds following members of the Obama administration into restaurants to scream at them.
no one of any significant was openly wishing harm on Obama and his family yes every president has a handful of nut cases wishing harm and death threat against a president but under Trump we are having celebrities, pollical, and social leaders doing so

 

That's irrelevant. Their crime rate is not justification for letting them in.

Are you really trying to argue that if a low enough percentage of them commit murder, rape, etc then it's ok to let those criminals in?

Also, coming here illegally is a crime. Thus you are excusing that crime completely.

Lastly, i guess your study really was imaginary.

 

That's not the biggest straw man this century, but I can see it from here.
Hyperbole, shortboard gyrating...
Stop gyrating.

 

double post

 

But, a mark civility is that which we cannot eliminate, we work to minimize s much as possible.

Conditions in our prisons are a stain against our nation. The government controls every moment of everyday of the lives of the incarcerated and what is allowed to occur there, every day, is unspeakable.

 

Got it--your claims require nothing to back them up, but mine do.

The 'crime' of coming here illegally is what is known as a victimless crime, a crime against the state. Those are not really crimes IMO.

Not having the proper paperwork was the style of Nazi Germany and other authoritarian governments.

 

And the behavior and relations between immigrants and their handlers is only 1 degree removed from the relations between prisoner and guard. Probably less than one degree.

 

Sorry, if you call over 100 billion+ in taxes being spent PER YEAR, on people who should NEVER be here, victim-less, you're insane and part of the problem. Cognitive dissonance I think they call it. And every single illegal that has raped, murdered or transported drugs has not effected anyone huh? Really? How about insurance levels rising due to so many illegals driving without insurance or licences? You'd have to be in a hotbed like SOCAL or FL. The fact entire school districts have to teach bilingual because 1/2 of the kids are illegals or anchor babies where English isn't the first language....is victimless? And now you've gone completely off the cliff, comparing it to Nazi Germany. Do you feel the Nazis who check your ID and ticket are collecting your "papers" every time you fly? How about when you go to a bank? Those guys collecting too much info on you, or should I guess you don't have a bank account? When you had to provide a lot of information to a college when you enrolled, did all those papers they demand, insult you, or did you not attend college either? I won't go into what most employers demand regarding "papers", hehe.

Democrats are so adorable in their delusion and ignorance=) Not "real" crimes, hehe. So cute.

 

It's awful.

 

At least it would stop growing the problem.

 

You claimed a study existed. I just want to see it.

Do I need to back up my claim that some of them come here and commit crimes? I thought it was common knowledge, but if you think it's possible that none of them are committing crimes once they get here then I'll gladly provided evidence that some do.

Coming here illegally is NOT a victimless crime. When you are using taxpayer dollars, it's not victimless.

I can't believe there are people who take the position that you do. Illegal immigration is a huge burden to our society and there's quite literally nothing that says otherwise and yet, lefties still want to defend it.

 

If you are gullible enough to believe that papers cannot be counterfeited or otherwise defeated, that would make you pretty gullible.

Indignance and anger over immigration is mostly an emotional thing.

 

Crime existed before their arrival. People have been assaulting and robbing each other, fighting and raping each other, long before 'the immigrants' got here, if you want to pretend we are not all immigrants, and that defaults to Native American.

Such petty offenses are very much victimless crimes, just as driving with an expired DL is.

 

Of course they can be fake. So? Everyone should be angry people are murdered and raped by those who shouldn’t be here in the first place. Everyone should be angry illegals cost us well over 100Billion/year in taxes. Everyone should be angry they sneak into our country and have children, exploiting our laws and social services. We should be angry they’re diluting the social fabric of our country bringing with them a culture that is basically a national failure. No Latin American countries are overly succesful. They all either poor and corrupt or completely inconsequential and add little in the way of technology or innovation.

It’s ignorant to claim illegals are victimless and don’t have a negative impact on the rest of our lives.

 

Way to state the obvious. You've clearly completely given up on trying to make a rational argument....I don't blame you.

Legal citizens would be alive today if illegals were kept out. Countries have borders, I don't expect to cross into other countries illegally and I dont expect others to come here illegally. I respect other nations laws and I expect those people to respect our laws too.

You've been shown, more than once by not just me, that those are not victimless crimes. Repeating yourself doesn't change that fact.

 

emotional thing? Is that a joke? It's a 'I care about the safety and well being of the citizens of this coutry thing' along with a little bit of 'I don't want to be the one footing the bill for freeloaders thing'

emotion.....lol.

 

Compared to the crimes committed by our elected representatives in assaulting the rule of law, undocumented immigrants is no problem at all. It is a bogey man, meant to scare people. Some fall for it, some don't. It's an emotional, not rational, issue.

 

Of course a certain number of undocumented immigrants commit crimes. So do natural born US citizens. The important part is how many crimes, and as a percentage.

It's an emotional thing based on xenophobic tendencies. It's a great issue to distract the xenophobic populace from considering other more important issues like missing trillions of dollars from the Pentagon or 17 years of war brought under fraud.

 

First off, we aren't the worlds police force or nanny. Second, new research shows that, depending upon the locale, illegals commit crimes at a rate of up to five times that of American citizens. Third, we are a nation of laws and procedures. And illegal immigration is antithetical to that. It is anarchy. There is absolutely nothing right or good about illegal immigration. It is a burden and a grief to our nation and to our people, especially those closest to the matter who are victimized by it in one form or another.

 

Except the illegal immigrant crime here COULD be near zero, if we wanted it to be.

But instead people like you are spouting off about the crime companions between border jumpers and citizens....

Thats not the point, at all. The fact that crime by illegals is anything is a problem that can be solved.

 

The research on the question of crimes shows both sides, and considering their illegal status, how can meaningful research be conducted?

If the matter of whether or not an immigrant possesses a certain piece of government paper is a burden and grief to this country, I wonder what you would consider our elected representatives trashing the US Constitution to be? I wonder what sort of burden and grief to our nation you would consider taking the country to war under fraud to be?

 

It could be near zero if we wanted it to be? Kinda like the availability of illegal drugs could be near zero if we wanted it to be?

Do you have a magic wand?

 

Possessing paper...?

Or using welfare, free sschooling free healthcare, free housing, and then sending their paychecks back to central America where our government can't tax it?

The left is so obsessed with who is paying what taxes but then give illegals a pass.