John McCain...Donald Trump

Fund and push as evidence is a pretty long stretch.
And of course there is no evidence that McCain did anything wrong, just something trump doesn't like which is probably a good thing.
And yes, his service absolutely is being attacked, and his record is being lied about and the entire thing is pettier than anything that any president has ever done.
I agree that it doesn't doesn't absolve you of everything, but trumpers absolutely are attacking his service. And the only reason really given is that McCain put his country above one 'man' and that hurt his feelings.

 

No, it's not. They funded and pushed the dossier. They were it's creators.

McCain in possession of the dossier is evidence he did something wrong.

I see people asking questions about his service. There's nothing wrong about that.

I know it really chaps leftist asses though when people don't think or say what the left approves of.

 

I think the creator was the washington free beacon. His possession of it signifies nothing wrong. Looking at credible evidence that might besmirch his service is one thing, just throwing around "I heard he worked with his captors, and got away scott-free" is baseless attack on his service and demonstrably false. The "last in his class" tweet is bringing his service into it, that isn't just a politics discussion. All of this is more disrespectful than football players taking a knee which has so many of the same people clutching their pearls. It chaps my ass when people are dishonest, and yes, disrespecting that kind of sacrifice to my country REALLY chaps my ass.

 

I know this may sound Looney.But I believe McCain faked his own death.
There was no verifiable way to analyze his being dead inside that casket.
It was a closed casket.McCain was sick with a deadly brain cancer for
well over a year.That in and of itself was very unusual.With McCain's
type brain cancer life is very short.Months,at best.
It wasn't until Jerome Corsi made a comment on his YouTube platform
which was becoming very popular about McCain's apparent brain cancer.
There wasn't any mention of John McCain's condition for over half a year.
Corsi made a comment that he wanted proof that McCain had what he
called brain cancer.Because Corsi researched the kind McCain " supposedly "
had and it was rather quick.Corsi in effect challenged McCain's true health.
If he had that sort of brain cancer for well over a year,and no reports
as to his condition,something was fishy.Within less than a week McCains
condition was finally reported.Then a couple weeks later Corsi was
hounded by Mueller 's team and forced to be interviewed.
It had something to do with Corsi making the claim that Barack Obama
was well known in Chicago circles as someone who visited Bath Houses.
The kind Gay men go to.
In no time Corsi had his health fail and YouTube account suspended.
He agreed to a Mueller Interview which took weeks.He handed over
everything.This all started when Jerome Corsi made a comment on his
YouTube channel about McCain and how come no news about bhis health.
Corsi saying that McCain might not have brain Cancer.He was using it
as some kind sympathy card.At that time it was not known how involved
McCain was in making sure the Steele Dossier was put in the proper hands
to be used to spy and cause huge trouble for President Trump.
I say McCain faked his death,because eventually he would be found out.
As the Man who tried to embarrass and then Frame Trump.
Actually it would have been a piece of cake for McCain to fake his death.
He could easily afford or find a doctor willing to write up a false medical
report and make it seem like he was very ill.Then the closed casket.
McCain could easily spend his swan years,hiding out and watching Trump
squirm,on account of that Steele Dossier.Better than being the guy who
made it possible for the Mueller Witch hunt and eventually would be
under Investigation,as McCabe and Bruce Orr and Comey are now.

 

Well then what you think is wrong, and yes, his possession of intel generated by foreign assets does.

There is no credible evidence in the dossier.

How do you know it's baseless? Vox tell you?

I find it hilarious that the same people who called him a "racist" and "Hitler" in his presidential campaign are rushing to his defense though.

With what you've tried to claim so far about the dossier and it's origins, I'd say dishonesty doesn't really bother you.

 

So keep in mind one of the ploys or techniques of the left.
If McCain was alive right now,the Leftists would insist McCain be
left alone.They would refuse to even question his role in obtaining
that Steele Dossier.That is how leftists make sure to clear someone they
like.By refusing to ask hard questions.Like how Obama was never interviewed
as to what he was doing on the night of the Benghazi attack.
See how that works.Obama was given a complete pass as to Benghazi.
Even though he ran around for weeks Lying about it.

 

Provide substantiation for that statement.

Put a different way, what the hell are you talking about? Do you know?

Trump's fans think saying something makes it true. They post wild accusations without explanation and somehow expect others to believe them.

Well, they voted for Trump. What can I say?

 

I mean foreign intel from say russia would be a much different deal than from england. And as soon as he got it, he turned it over to authorities. Sitting on it would be indication of wrong-doing. The dossier also hasn't been shown to be completely false. Where are you getting the idea that the fbi funded it?

Are you seriously asking how I know it is baseless that McCain didn't collaborate with his captors for 'scott-free' treatment????

Who called him racist and hitler? Sure wasn't me.

You didn't know that the washington examiner was the origin of the dossier? That didn't come up on tuckers show?

 

Sure.

He campaigned on repealing Obamacare.

When the time came to vote to repeal, he didn't vote to repeal it.

 

This is not about the dossier. This is about Trump's obsession.

He is obsessed. For the fifth day in a row he is attacking a dead man, Senator John McCain. This what our draft-dodging President had to say about a war hero from the Vietnam era.

Speaking to workers in Lima, Ohio, Trump could have talked about our tremendous economy and low unemployment. Instead he went into a tirade about McCain. "John McCain received the fake and phony dossier. You hear about the dossier? It was paid for by Crooked Hillary Clinton. And John McCain got it. And what did he do? He didn’t call me. He turned it over to the FBI hoping to put me in jeopardy."

In other words, in Trump’s view, a senator presented with serious and terrifying allegations about the president-elect shouldn’t turn those over to the appropriate authorities. No, this information should be turned over to the president-elect, and the fact that McCain did what most people would call the right thing only proves how much he hates Trump. That is an apt description of paranoia.

This isn’t the logic of a President, to put it mildly.

Trump continued his rant as the workers, many of them veterans, listened in shocked silence. “I gave him the kind of funeral that he wanted, which as president, I had to approve,” Trump said. “I don’t care about this, I didn’t get a thank you — that’s okay. We sent him on the way. But I wasn’t a fan of John McCain.”

A good guess is that Trump is referring to the fact that he personally authorized the use of Air Force 2 to fly McCain’s body from Arizona to Washington. Other than that, no one has any idea what he is talking about, except for the fact that this is another apt description of paranoia.

Americans have serious problem. Their President is a sick man.

 

If Bush 43 had been a democrat... totally would have covered for him , just as they do for HRC, Obama, and any other democrat.

 

That's it. First of all, it is more complicated than that. Among other issues, McCain want to repeal and replace, not just repeal and deprive millions of Americans of health insurance.

Secondly, you are obsessed as much as Trump. A healthy person does not talk about a dead war hero that way, and you support Trump.

That says all we need to know about you.

 

How many times do I have to explain that the FBI and DOJ already had a relationship with Steele?

John McCain became "aware" of the Steele dossier after the 2016 Halifax International Security Forum. When was that forum? Nov 2016.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/new...-detailed-deposition-david-kramer/3205658002/

What also happened in Nov 2016? The FBI broke off their public relationship with Steele, but maintained a private connection through Bruce Ohr.

As of Oct 2016, the FBI was still funding the dossier.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/crime-...-payments-trump-dossier-author-steele-n897506

This means they knew about the dossier before McCain. They helped create it.

McCain didn't just give it to the FBI, even though they were funding it's creation....

He also leaked it to the media.

 

Neither McCain or Trump would be qualified to shine Reagan’s shoes.

 

Lot's leaps of logic here. It does show that steele was an asset, but that's about it. These show some lack of discretion and judgement on the part of kramer, but shows McCain did everything a loyal American should do.

 

Just because you put on your tin-foil hat and sleep in Holiday Inn last night doesn't mean the rest of us have to buy into your crap. Sorry to break it to you. McCain did the right thing by giving the dossier to Justice. Trump is our first President with International holdings who refused to give up control of those holdings. We don't know what foreign financial ties and obligations he has.
If he was more transparent, this would not be as big an issue as it has become.

 

Total BS. Not even within reality.

 

I love when the people who have been screeching "russia russia russia" for 2+ years call my sourced timeline "tin foil".

Sorry to break it to you, but we now know that McCain was given an FBI/Clinton created/funded dossier so that he could hand it back to them and they could say "We got it from a Republican".

It's just a coincidence that days after the election, the FBI/Clinton dossier creation was made known to McCain so that he could give them what they helped create and were already aware of.

 

Tinfoil hattery.

 

Facts.

Keep clicking your heels together, it's not going to help.

 

And McCain was supposed to do what with that dossier once it was given to him? Sit on it?

 

Tinfoil hattery.

 

Let's look at it again a little slower.

We know that the FBI helped fund the dossier until Oct 2016. They already knew about the dossier.

Why would the FBI need John McCain to give them something they already had?

Something McCain didn't have until after Trump was elected on Nov 8th.

 

Rattle that bean.

 

Tinfoil hattery.