John McCain...Donald Trump

Please explain how dropping bombs on Vietnamese farmers constitutes a sacrifice for this country.

 

The entire Republican party campaigned on it, and when the time came to replace it, they couldn't come up with anything better. They barely came up with anything, period. Neither did Trump's administration. McCain recognized that repealing something just for the sake of repealing it when you're not replacing it with something better is a stupid move, and he didn't care about the politics of doing it just to stick it to the Democrats.

 

You've got yer facts all twisted like a pretzel.Fusion GPS was hired and paid
by the DNC and also a Clinton law firm.The excuse used was for Opposition
research.There are as many lies regarding the - Steel Dossier - as there are
truths.The MSM is getting paid and well to distort the truth or confound it.
McCain was NOT given a copy but himself paid for one that was picked
up by a courier.The - Steele Dossier - was from Britain.
McCain dispatched former State dept. Official David Kramer to London
on November 28,2016.Where Dossier author Christopher Steele reportedly
allowed Kramer to see it.While a copy { hardcopy } was later provided to
McCain through Kramer.McCain then provided a copy of the document to
former FBI Director James Comey during a December 9 meeting.
BuzzFeed's Ken Bensinger somehow managed to view that document and
may have taken photos of the document.This learned from the defamation
lawsuit filed against BuzzFeed.

 

You just disrespected another poster's military service in this thread, by diminishing the danger he faced during the surge. Maybe you should follow your own advice?

 

No, that would be you and the other conspiracy theorists who've been peddling a transparent fiction about Russian "collusion" and "interference" in the presidential elections.

 

lol

The dissonance is simply unbelievable.

The promoters of the biggest and lamest conspiracy theory in US history (Russian collusion) are accusing their opponents of wearing a tinfoil hat?

Why don't you guys go look in a mirror or something?

If those who question the noble intent of the political establishment are wearing a tinfoil hat, then those who push the Russian "collusion" conspiracy theory are wearing a tinfoil body suit.

I swear, there is nothing more hypocritical and silly than defending the status quo and its establishment guardians.

 

Explain how Trump is a " Coward and Idiot ". He beat out a field of 16
GOP candidates.He went up against the Clinton machine and Cable hypocrites
and has been winning ever since.The real cowards and idiots are the bovine
crabs in the MSM who cannot play fair for one minute out of a 24 hr. day.

 

You're describing yourself.

You're the one clinging to an untenable, laughable conspiracy theory that has zero evidence in support of it.

How naive are you? Go read a history book or something. There is nothing magical about the US political system. It's made by humans and therefore corruptible and flawed. Any man-made system can be subverted or manipulated. And given the immense power and wealth concentrated within the US government, the incentive to subvert and manipulate it is absolutely enormous.

 

Why would anyone have to come up with a replacement for pure crap?

 

Trump is a coward and an idiot because he has failed to deliver on his promises of a more noninterventionist foreign policy.

During the presidential campaign, Trump truthfully described the Iraq war as a disaster. But once Trump became president, he appointed one of the principal architects of the Iraq war (Bolton) to his cabinet. Trump is clearly a coward and an idiot.

Trump has been defeated by the neocons he ran against. His administration is overflowing with swamp creatures who want more Iraq wars in places like Syria and Iran and Venezuela.

 

Tinfoil hattery.

 

Someone get this guy a mirror.

 

They had something.

You just had to vote for it before you could find out what was in it.

 

Rush Limbaugh is eminently correct.You and your type don't know
the first thing about Trump and his motivations.Yes,he likes to boast.
But he's also willing to make sure he Does The Right Thing.
Since Politics has become a game of Power and Political Expediency,
Trump has the advantage.The History books are not gonna write how
Trump looked for the easy way out,like Obama.Trump is a fighter and
man on a mission.No better mission than to make America Great.

 

For his own sake make sure this guy doesn't get one.

 

delete.

 

I see what you did there.

But yeah, they had nothing.

 

Because our for-profit health care system has driven up costs which not only prices people out of the health care they need, it is also a leading cause of bankruptcy and a huge drag on the economy. Obamacare may have been crap but that doesn't negate the need for comprehensive health care reform. The Republicans campaigned for years on repealing Obamacare but when it came time for them to do it, they hadn't spent a fraction of a second coming up with something better.

If it was pure crap as you say, it shouldn't have been that hard to do.

 

In the end, even if that was just an fu to trump, McCain earned that right, trump never earned anything.

 

He also voluntarily spent 5 years being starved beaten and having his arms ripped out of their sockets. You're right, it was wrong of me to run down someone's service, but, a tour in oif can't even remotely compare to what McCain went through.

 

"You are confused again. I'm not married to the
deceased war hero you need to keep dumping on.
Try to focus!"​

 

Right, because having your leg blown off or your face burned off or even being killed cannot compare to what McCain went through...

 

Far be it from me to interrupt the reverie, lol... (just saying)

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/11/12/mccain-republican-house-loss-983685

 

John McCain is one of the best presidents America never had. Why the electorate would reject him and elect Trump is truly mystifying.

 

Well, no sane person would take what McCain went through over losing a leg to an ied. Of course if you are killed, you are killed, doesn't matter how. It's a stupid competition. The point is that except for like a dozen or two people, nobody in oif or oef suffered as much as McCain did. This other guy almost certainly didn't suffer anything more than some bad dfac food for a few months. The diminishing of the things he sacrificed is disrespect for actual sacrifice of thousands and thousands of veterans. What this comes from is bad political opinions. This leads to a dichotomy wherein one wants to wave the flag and pretend to be a patriot, but the opinion is much more important than the country or patriotism. So, the bad opinion want's to be in love with a very clearly un-American and un-patriotic coward that was very un-patriotic in deriding the very real and patriotic sacrifices of a very real American patriot. This sets up a cognitive dissonance. There is no way to square supporting this cowardly draft dodger who is insulting real patriotic sacrifice with the lesser commitment to pretending to be patriotic. So, the patriotism takes the back seat. One pretends there is some reason to imagine McCain is actually the one that isn't patriotic. Any excuse no matter how unbelievable, or unsupported is seized wholeheartedly, because that sacrifice to the country and way of life we live in is less important than the emotional ties to a political opinion. Now, that doesn't exempt him in any way from debate and criticism of his politics, but that isn't what is happening.