Mass Shootings -- Becoming More Common? Done mainly by Crazy People? And those Video Games?

So, "best guess" without scientific evidence....got it.

 

I did - from the very start. It's by concentrating on the bulk of the problem that will give you the solution otherwise you are just placing pots and pans on the floor, catching rain droplets. By blaming and focusing on the mentally ill you are catching those tiny raindrops and you'll be shocked when the roof finally gives in and crashes to the ground and you'll suddenly have no place to live.

 

I was mistaken. There is proof that THC does affect the brain.

Berenson, Alex. Tell Your Children: The Truth About Marijuana, Mental Illness, and Violence (pp. 122-123). Free Press. Kindle Edition.





Here is more clinical proof:

Berenson, Alex. Tell Your Children: The Truth About Marijuana, Mental Illness, and Violence (pp. 93-95). Free Press. Kindle Edition.

Berenson, Alex. Tell Your Children: The Truth About Marijuana, Mental Illness, and Violence (p. 127). Free Press. Kindle Edition.

 

You find no value in clinical diagnoses ?? But there actually is scientific evidence. See directly above.

 

We can walk and chew gum at the same time, no ?? Who is blaming the mentally ill ?? They are one of the most mistreated and untreated groups in the US thanks to moronic legislation which basically says a person has a right to be crazy. Not to mention the victims of the untreated mentally ill.

 

Gun confiscation is a losing platform plank. When will the D's realize this??

 

"We"? I can.

 

Then you would advocate for working to reduce all factors contributing to violence in the US. No ??

 

Absolutely. As long as it goes to the heart of the problem. Your way doesn't do that.

 

We live in a system where we secure our rights through sensible regulation. We prohibit bath salts, but most other things we simply regulate to one degree or another.

 

Dumb question.

 

Your first block quote is irrelevant. They are not talking about the effect of marijuana. They are talking about another drug that was created...."inverse agonists"....to act opposite as marijuana and it was this synthetic drug that caused the psychiatric problems.

The second block quote actually supports what I have been saying. That it is possible that those with underlying psychiatric are more prone to be drug users. The report even says that those that smoke pot often use other drugs. They then go on to say that they "adjusted for other drug use". I am very curious as to how they did that. The report also seems to have many "doubters" as to the conclusion. Also, psychosis is a VERY broad term. It does not necessarily mean that a person become aggressive or violent prone. It could just mean that a person becomes withdrawn from society or develops "phobias". Psychosis can also be induced by mental or physical trauma.....something that does not seem to be addressed in the study.

The third block quote still does not say that marijuana causes people to become violent. It says that it could cause them to develop psychotic disorders. Psychotic disorders normally pertains to delusions and hallucinations....not violent tenancies. It describes a person that has lost touch with reality to some extent. While that disconnect with reality COULD cause a violent reaction or even great mode swings (bi-polar), it is a broad label that does not support the claim that it means violent tenancies.

I am not disputing the fact that ANY or ALL drugs CAN have a impact on our mental state. I am disputing that there is any solid link between marijuana usage and violent tenancies. I am also not saying there is NO link. However, Berenson's book does not prove that this link exists. In fact, the more data you provide, the more that you are proving that there is no solid link.

 

While clinical diagnoses could get a person in the ballpark, they are normally useless for determining exact causes. They are guesses and nothing more....albeit educated guesses in many cases.

No quite. See directly above.

 

Of course it does. The way has parallel paths leading to a significant reduction in violence.

 

It’s about THC.

THC causes psychosis in some people resulting in violent behavior. That’s very clear.

I thought you read the book.

 

You’re kidding me right ???

 

Nowhere does any of that you posted make that claim.....that THC causes psychosis in some people resulting in violent behavior. That was the conclusion from Berenson based on a myopic viewpoint and not a scientific viewpoint.

 

Do you know what a "clinical diagnosis" is? It is treating symptoms without knowing the disease. That does not mean that treating symptoms can not be effective, but it does not necessarily identify the disease itself. You were 100% correct that Berenson's book was a "clinical diagnosis".

 

It’s in the book which you claim to have read. Berenson is reporting on the conclusions of the referenced researchers. Those conclusions are based on the scientific method.

 

It’s determining the disease based on the symptoms. And there is compelling evidence that THC causes psychosis and violence in some people.

 

Another thing most of these mass shooting perps have in common is they had no fathers in their lives.

 

Berenson (a journalist and fiction writer) is taking information and making false assumptions from the scientific studies of others, without looking at other possibilities.....nothing more.....period.

 

Whatever dude. Reaching conclusions based on analytical information without considering any other possibilities is NOT "compelling evidence". At least not to people that that think critically.

 

The research has been done by scientists and medical professionals.

 

The conclusions are based on solid medical research. You are claiming those people cannot think critically ???