Trump calls for 'war' against Mexican drug cartel 'monsters' after Americans murdered

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  1. Gdawg007

    Gdawg007 Well-Known Member

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    So what is being discussed? Invade Mexico? How do you think the military will remove corruption? Corruption isn't an enemy force you can shoot at. So you plan to do what with our soldiers in Mexico?
     
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    The plan? **** them up, for as long as it takes.
     
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    Gdawg007 Well-Known Member

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    I would be surprised if we don't already do this with the drug cartels.
     
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    You don't think troops would be overjoyed at the opportunity to actually fight for the USA?
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Costa Rica is very safe, as is Panama. They're very friendly, depend a great deal on tourism, and it's best we don't destroy their economies so that they'll look for other sources of income. That's the way Mexico used to be.
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In Mexico? I hope you're right.
     
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    Gdawg007 Well-Known Member

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    Brilliant. Let's give you five stars, General! So you don't have a plan then. How will you find them? Who are they? And what will you do when they retaliate? Will you escalate? How many innocent people, because they will die, will die before too many have died? So many questions and problems with this idea that you feel you don't need to answer because you think if you just hurt them, they will back down. Again, they don't back down because billions of dollars are at stake. A better solution would be to take away their business. They will retaliate over that too, but at least you don't have blood on your hands that politically can be used against you. Just a thought.
     
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    Just don't go to Mexico. If you must spend money outside these sacred borders make it Canada. But probably wait for spring.
     
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    I'm not concerned with their "joy." They are professionals and fight when and where they are told. Joy has nothing to do with it. Feelings don't matter in professions, in fact, professionals isolate their feelings to make objective decisions to do the best possible jobs. That's why they are called professionals...
     
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    You're asking obvious questions in a stupid fashion. Yes, of course, many things must be considered, but one thing that should be settled is that military force is a go.

    The cartels are not going to be placated or starved out.

    It's time to start wiping them out.
     
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    Trump is 100% right here and ALL Americans should be behind it. This cartel that slaughtered these innocents needs to receive the Bahgdadi treatment. It's time to roll back the satellites that cover the area (and they are up there) to see where these animals came from and then send out cruise missiles, planes, and special forces to clean out these pieces of crap.
     
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    They are neither incapable nor incompetent, they are unwilling due to the money corruption.

    Drones are not going to solve this.
     
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    They wont, they're basically cowardly. And that is our fault! We gave them a easy way out with open borders and lax deportation efforts.. If the U.S. was to treat them like we would be treated crossing in to their country illegally they would eventually fight for their rights as we see those ILLEGAL MEXICANS doing in this country..

    It really is madness!
     
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    We already know who they are. Strategies are already being worked up. I don't think you understand our Northern Mexico surveillance capabilities. Satellites are covering the area. Their data is captured. They can be rolled back to the time of the attack and prior to see where the scumbags came from. There is going to be a second slaughter, but this time of the Mexican Drug Cartel and those that support them. The ONLY people frightened now are the Mexican Criminals that slaughtered these families and trust me.... they are crapping themselves. They line stepped in a way that cannot be undone.
     
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    Right, I'm asking stupid questions. Again, what military force and where will it be applied? Are you talking going into Mexican cities to kill the cartel? Are you talking invasion and replacing a corrupt government? What are you talking here? Why would anyone say it's a 'go' if you won't answer basic questions.

    Wipe them out? How? How do you propose ending a criminal empire where even if you kill every current member, there's still the potential to make billions of dollars selling drugs largely to Americans?
     
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    People are already dying in the thousands every year and no change is expected. To do nothing is not a wise alternative.
     
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    To be unwilling to do what they need to do is to be incapable and incompetent.

    The status quo will change nothing.
     
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    Yes, your questions have not been well thought out.
     
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    no expert on the subject, but I'm not sure legalizing weed is a problem solver to be honest. I just watched a show on 60 minutes or cbs sunday (i forget) and they were talking about a cannabis glut, so I can't imagine that the cartels are making a ton on that product. Seems to me its more of the cocaine, heroine, meth type stuff that is the real profit maker, perhaps the weed is the bread and butter income but the real big money likely comes from the hardcore drugs, and I don't see that being legalized.

    Am I wrong with that assumption?

    Personally I don't travel there but then again I don't travel to Detroit either :)
    I still travel to Chicago but only stay in the city long enough to rent a car and get the hell out of there to visit family.

    My kid just last week spent 5 days climbing and bouldering in Mexico and honestly I wasn't comfortable until I got the phone call that said "back home". 3+ hour wait by car at the border so apparently whatever reservations I may have about traveling to mexico aren't shared by everyone.

    As far as the cartels, this seems like a problem in mexico that should be handled by mexico, not sure if they have the same or similar restrictions about using their military on citizens but this is not a new problem for them, they know what needs to be done.

    Will the "demand" for their drugs taper down? I would have thought they would since we are thinning the herd with drug overdoses by the thousands, but apparently not. <baffling to be honest.

    The only way I'd even consider coke/meth/heroin is if I was terminally ill with zero hope of survival, then I'd say, 'lets see what all the hubbub is about with this stuff" otherwise, I prefer to keep all my teeth and my job.
     
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    We have to pass a resolution to see what's in it. Settle down Detective Peacnik.
     
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    Where you been for the last ten years? Drones will do just as good a job in Mexico as they do in the Middle east :roll::salute:
     
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    They did well with Big Al Bagdadi. This would be easier. If the US Military was after me I'd probably reconsider some of my options, likely deciding that money isn't the most important thing in life.
     
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    Such a fool's errand for a fool to suggest another guerrilla war..
     
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    So you don't think MEXICAN citizens don't know who the local cartels are? You ever talk to illegals or naturalized Mexican immigrants?
     
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    I wonder if building a wall would help curb the influx of illegal product....

    but then again they have submarines now,,,, which is crazy!
     
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