‘Press 2 for Spanish,’ Similar Programs Cost Billions, but Trump Could End It

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    Of course illegals can register to vote when they apply for.a drivers license
     
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    From rahl's own link, it wasn't ICE and it wasn't VERIFIED data, the link to the report his link references starts out

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    This report presents estimates of the US undocumented population for 2017 derived by the Center for Migration Studies of New York (CMS)........."

    This will probably be the moment he leaves the discussion.
     
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    Ok. Go with your "gut" then, lol.
     
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    not how this works. I provided you a citation with a direct link to the official government data. If you allege it is inaccurate, the burden is on you to prove it. Good luck.
     
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    No they can't.
     
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    nope. I'll be right here pounding you over the head with the data, while you flail about like you usually do. You are certainly free to present your own data showing the DHS is inaccurate. Good luck.
     
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    It creates work for linguists. Don't you like jobs?
     
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    Visa overstays are in our system, illegal invaders are not. You can begin the deportation process on overstays without actually having contact with them. Illegal invaders must first be caught before any of the process can begin. The wall addresses a significant problem whether you admit it or not.
     
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    Not my gut

    My common sense

    Government cannot count people it cannot see
     
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    No one can accurately say how many illegal slip psat the border patrol unseen
     
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    Its easy as pie

    All the have to do is ask
     
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    Why? You didn't cite DHS and the information you posted was not verified as I just showed.
     
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    A wall does not address anything. Walls are quite easily defeated, as the border patrol showed you and trump.
     
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    right, your "gut" is more reliable than official government data. Lol
     
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    Then your claim is entirely baseless, as you can in no way rebut the data I gave you. Thank you.
     
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    illegals of course can not vote in federal elections.
     
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    I of course did cite the DHS, more than once. You are free to present your data showing the DHS is incorrect. We of course both know you can't do that, because you don't have any, lol.
     
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    You need to tell your gated community Ivory Tower liberals that. We know walls work, you denying it won't actually change that simple reality. Why does Obama's obscenely expensive Presidential Library have a wall? Because they work...
     
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    It would be cool if tech support was "outsourced" back to the US as well.
     
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    ok. their "walls" are even easier to defeat.
    actually we know they don't. As proven by border patrol, lol.
    decoration. Walls do not keep people out. they are quite easily defeated.
     
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    The conservative solution to that is incentivizing corporations to do so, not Big Government schemes to try and force them.
     
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    That's total nonsense, because a wall is only defeated by those who already have immoral and illegal actions in mind. Law abiding citizens do not breach walls. This country does not need more criminal scum, we have enough already. The wall, if nothing else, will identify what sort of scum we should be keeping out, regardless of how effective it is in stopping them. That is good enough for me and others that support the wall. Although it will reduce illegal invasion. You folks make it sound as though if the wall were breached it wouldn't repaired, or that area wouldn't be monitored. Its just more liberal emotional response to not getting your way and any opposition to you open borders dream...
     
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    a wall is entirely useless for stopping illegal entry, illegal drug smuggling etc. The majority of illegals are visa overstays, not illegal border crossers. The Majority of illegal drugs smuggled into the country, come through legal ports of entry, not illegal border crossings. A 30 ft wall is easily defeated with a ladder, or spade shovel. This is just reality.
     
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    No it isn't. A wall directs invader traffic to areas that are difficult to traverse and easier to patrol. You also pretend that we will not actually be watching the Mexican side, as though people will just be able to walk up, breach the wall, and nothing will happen, as though we will not dispatch agents to apprehend the invaders or stop them entirely. Your arguments are weak...
     
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    Every argument against the wall is weak, and so out of touch with reality it's not even worth responding.
     
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