18 Arrested, Facing Federal Charges After Weeknight Protests at Federal Courthouse in Portland

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  1. US Conservative

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    These demonstrations have gone on long enough. Even if they are peaceful, which they frequently are not, I want the demonstrators to be arrested and imprisoned.
     
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    My name is not Perry Mason.

    I won't need to be, I expect the ACLU and other august institutions will have that covered. It's probably going to be one of the biggest muckrakers of the last half-century.

    The people on the right side are the protesters that are peaceful. Also on the right side are the Federal Officers who arrest people they have evidence to prove have committed actual damage to Federal property.

    The people on the wrong side are people who wantonly damage and ransack innocent businesses or hurt innocent people and the Federal Officers who pull people off of the streets just because they don't like the look of them and think they might be guilty of something.

    There: glad I could clear that up.

    I don't condone violence against innocent people or businesses, you must have me confused with somebody else. Maybe it's that Perry Mason guy.

    If somebody is caught in the act of vandalizing property then, of course, they should be (properly) arrested and tried but picking people up just because they look like somebody who might do that kind of thing or because they are in the vicinity of somebody that actually did commit a crime just doesn't work in a free society.

    Most protesters don't want that. They just want their voices to be heard and the way things are shaping up, I think they will be.
     
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    Even if they've done nothing wrong?

    Just because in your opinion the "demonstrations have gone on to long".

    Go rip up that Constitution.
     
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    I see one communist flag and the vast majority of others showing no such affiliation.

    I suspect that a "commie" is just about anybody you don't like the look of?

    One could have the same opinion of what constitutes a fascist?
     
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    A badge which says Police but no mention of city or precinct.

    Is that all you got?
     
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    I have a feeling plenty of people are about to do just that.
     
  8. US Conservative

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    Lol check out the ACLU website, they explicitly say the feds are justified. This really isn't a legal issue (its well settled and well known), its a political one, and the ACLU can't hide it.

    Back to the note the family owned business in Portland left in its window

    Who are they asking not to hurt them? If the protesters are peaceful, why does that note even exist?
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    Antifa also just set the Seattle police dept building on fire.

    We know who these people are and what they are about.
     
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    That is some top hat spin.

    We know who they are. We know what they are about.
     
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    I look at youtube, twitter, new articles-and I see many democrats saying what you are.

    But dem leadership is either quiet, or complicit, or downplaying it.

    I don't think dems who believe in law and order are calling the shots in the democrat party right now.
     
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    Do I need to buy you some glasses? Look at the shoulder. e31a08da-6a48-4a9b-8ab6-378a11739aca-AP20190626219317.jpg
     
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    So, since there were clear Nazi regalia on display by some participants of the Charlottesville Tiki party, all participants at that rally were Nazis?

    Right?

    We know who they are. We know what they are about.
     
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    Dupe.
     
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    Oh, really?

    "JULY 17, 2020
    PORTLAND — According to reports overnight, federal authorities in Portland, OR, continued to fire tear gas at protesters and have been grabbing protesters off of streets in unmarked vehicles.

    Below is comment from Jann Carson, interim executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Oregon, on the unfolding situation in Portland, OR:

    “What is happening now in Portland should concern everyone in the United States. Usually when we see people in unmarked cars forcibly grab someone off the street we call it kidnapping. The actions of the militarized federal officers are flat-out unconstitutional and will not go unanswered.

    “Under the direction of the Trump administration, militarized federal agents have flaunted court orders protecting the rights of protesters, used sharpshooters to deliberately maim people, and deployed indiscriminate weapons of war — including sonic weapons and dangerous tear gas formulations.

    “The acting director of Customs and Border Protection, Mark Morgan, referred to Black Lives Matter protesters in Portland as ‘thugs.’ Protesters in Portland have been shot in the head, swept away in unmarked cars, and repeatedly tear gassed by uninvited and unwelcome federal agents. We won’t rest until they are gone.”

    Portland Police Bureau and the Trump administration have responded to nightly protests in Portland over the police killing of George Floyd by indiscriminately using tear gas, rubber bullets, and acoustic weapons against protesters, journalists, and legal observers, even after the federal court enjoined such violent attacks in a lawsuit filed by the ACLU of Oregon. Federal officers also shot a protester in the head Sunday with a rubber bullet fracturing the person’s face and skull."

    Must be Fox News "truthy" glasses?
     
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    Why no link?

    • The Fourth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution protects Americans from random and arbitrary stops and searches.

    • According to the government, however, these basic constitutional principles do not apply fully at our borders. For example, at border crossings (also called "ports of entry"), federal authorities do not need a warrant or even suspicion of wrongdoing to justify conducting what courts have called a "routine search," such as searching luggage or a vehicle.
    • Even in places far removed from the border, deep into the interior of the country, immigration officials enjoy broad—though not limitless—powers. Specifically, federal regulations give U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) authority to operate within 100 miles of any U.S. "external boundary."
    • In this 100-mile zone, Border Patrol agents have certain additional authorities. For instance, Border Patrol can operate immigration checkpoints.
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    https://www.aclu.org/other/constitution-100-mile-border-zone
     
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    Busy cooking dinner, here's the link: https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/aclu-comment-federal-response-portland-protests
     
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    The ACLU said what exactly?
     
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    Why don't you go to the link I posted and and see yourself?

    BORTAC can operate and make arrests in Portland.
     
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    Where is the link?
     
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    Is this thread too long for you to look through?

    Do your homework.

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    That's all I need to read to rest assured that real patriots are successfully fighting Fascism.
     
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    If you want to read it that way that's on you but you maybe shouldn't show up in court to offer your assistance to the Fed's cause.
     
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    Has the violent racist rioters burned a welfare office yet?
     
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