2,000 Russian troops have landed in Crime, Ukrainian officials: "armed invasion", w

Probably send in the FBI to arrest whatever kooks were doing this, but you see my point. It's really silly to argue about nations and other such (*)(*)(*)(*) in the modern world. The nations of Europe were all at each other's throats off and on throughout the 19th century, now they're one big family. Now I can see the problem if one side is looking to beat on the other but my understanding was they weren't, in fact they were being exceptionally peaceful. Then one side or the other suddenly started being violent. Besides seeming suspicious, I can see that as a good starting point for negotiations. Go the Gandhi/King route, the world won't stand by and just let people be killed in the streets, Well, not if they know about it and not for long

 

[video=youtube;puKV1h9a0M4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=puKV1h9a0M4[/video]
[video=youtube;UtrBtHk7BTI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtrBtHk7BTI[/video]
video from Chechnya. the Chechen polices racially humiliate Russian solders(white trash) . soon we will get the same video from Crimea ., question is what the e-net vatniks here think about it? ´cos it could be video with one of " them "

 

No. It is true, that russian people are wearing the uniform and taking weaponry. Most of them are from Crimea itself and some people came from Russia. It is true. But they are not paratroopers or marines. Paratroppers so far are in Russia.

There was a decision made by russian parliament that russian military CAN trespass the border with the Ukraine. But it hasn't yet started. At the moment there is an information attack at the public opinion. A lot of false information which will partly come true in future making all of this crap appropriate for propaganda eaters.

 

I think that it is as ancient as mammoth's crap. The situation is completely different. In the beginning of Chechnya war russian military could hardly do anything without being criticised from the traitors in its own government. The second war was completely different. And now Chechnya is safe. Really safe. Of course this war left its scars but it will be healed, unless disturbed

 

you are wrong, its a correct situation. at the begging vatniks had bold Russian officers protectors. Chechnya is maybe safe. what whats about status of Russian solder there? a Russian solder vs kadyrovtsy

 

Your honour, what is that you are worrying about? I understand that you hate Russia. My condolesences... Your painful struggle so far passes in vain. You asked what I, as 'vatnik' think about the situation and I answered.Of course it is possible to humiliate people once you have the power. But true power is not in the ability humiliate... You yourself and your struggle against Russia is the best example of the equation of power and humiliation.

 

Why would anyone want to ally themselves with poor and imperialist Russia when they can join the prosperous and free West? I don't even get why Russia puts up with Putin.

 

if Russia is Putin and his gang - yes, if Russia for you ordinary middle class Russians (majority in the big cities) you are wrong.

one question: if someone idiot invades your country , lets say china takes over your far east and i ´d ask you about Hans, what ´d you say?

 

Ukraine is a divided nation.

The only way to avoid a protracted civil war may be an amicable parting of 'Ukia' and 'Rainistan', a la Czechoslovakia

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"west" is not free, and not prosperous. but Putin´s Russia is not an option at all . it works only for Vatniks ("Russian" white trash)

 

There you go.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0821672/bio

 

One answer. If our far east will once become depopulated and there will be a facist government which will try to make chinese (who will increase from today's 2% to 70%) to forget chinese language and to stop being chinese and make ready to go to war with chinese empire, I would fight with the cinese against the fasists... As I do it now.

 

the irony here is russia itself has become a fascist country...putin is leading russia to ruin....

 

It's a very popular lie for propaganda eaters... But I don't eat crap. Thanks.

 

your economy will be destroyed , you will suffer ...that's the price you'll pay for following your gangster leadership...

 

it is depopulated already. and one the other border-side 150 millions potential emigrants. red Hans are pressing Putin and his gang on 500 000 working visas for hungry hans every year , and take my word soon they will get it

 

ok, in this case can find the the 2 differences between those 2 events ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudeten_Germans#Final_crisis_in_1938 1938
http://news.yahoo.com/russian-troops-over-ukraines-crimea-region-200052097.html 2014

 

So be it. But it is better than trading our brothers to facist hunta in Kiev. There will be nothing new in trading unequality. Under USSR there was a Jackson-Vanik ammendment. The attempt with Magnitsky was not the best one, so if the US can't compete with Russia on fair rules - we will try to survive with your regular rules...

 

If I tell you one distinctive difference will you shut up? Or at least can you promise to be interested in your education, girls (boys?), religion, body-making, sports, hobbies..., job, so, smth except for blaming Russia for everything possible on this web site?

 

Kick him out already. He is just one man. I pretty sure the Russian people get their way in revolts.

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mostly free then and we are trying to get rid of the democrats/labour party/socialists/leftists just as soon as we can.

 

ok , find one , and i will do everything what you just told me to do my boss

 

OK. The situation is really almost identical, but as far as I remember you are not trained to understand the propaganda. You business is just to spread it. So look.

1) Almost a joke... For a start. One event happened with a nazist Germany and democratic Chech republic. Another is a gossip in the news, which aim is to affect public opinion.
That's why your first link goes to encyclopedia and the second to a trashy article... But really. It IS a diference.

2) Hitler was claiming teriitories that need to belong to Reich. And Russia regards Ukraine as a state with hunta that is trying to coe to power.

This is the most recent reaction of Russian ministry of foreign affairs
http://www.mid.ru/brp_4.nsf/newsline/C3A88A538B71619944257C90004B34D7

It repeats the previous one (English):
http://www.mid.ru/BDOMP/Brp_4.nsf/arh/737F3C13F9FF684644257C8D0048ADDE?OpenDocument

The idea is that for Russia the conflict in the Ukraine is an internal affair and the world should take the responsibility to avoid the blood. All the initiatives of Russia are aiming only to PRESERVING Ukraine. And some comic in the US wants to take one side of the conflict (of which his state is one of the main investors) in the account of the lost side. US wants to take the sides of open facists in the conflict with a nation which acording to their beliefs is lower than theirs. This actually makes the situation only identical. Because with Hitler Western countries behaved just the same way.

3) The reaction of the west is different.
Read this in Wiki:
"Western powers tried to calm down the situation and forced the government of Czechoslovakia to comply with most of the Carlsbad Decrees. However the SdP, instructed to push towards war, escalated the situation with more protests and violence."

I repeat. The western countries were SUPPORTING THE DEMANDS of Hitler. They PRESSED Chechs. They MADE them to lay down under the Reich.

And now let us compare this behaviour with the behaviour of modern West towards Russia. They again PRESS a democratic state to lay down under the nazists. And the audience doesn't have a chance to hear about the self-claimed government of Crimea, which doesn't like Yanukovich but admits that he is a legitimate President.

Enough?

UPD And it is not a command, but try to keep your word. I understand that it will be difficult. Try at least to talk about something else but Russia for let's say a month. You will only gain. Believe me.

 

putin=hitler, both lead facist regimes...
Russians are so deluded they dont even recognize they have become what they claim to despise, facists...

 

It has just been proved that propaganda eaters always react to the first most provocative and misleading titles and first lines. They never read and understand! Thank you so much.

 

a difference in Hitler, Putin´s actions(rhetoric)this was my question