2015 Already Setting Heat Records

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  1. TheTaoOfBill

    TheTaoOfBill Well-Known Member

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    No (*)(*)(*)(*) it's weather. Did I claim it was climate? It's a measurement of global warming. Not a measurement of climate change. It's like you didn't even read my last post and responded to it anyway.
     
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    In The Dark Well-Known Member

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    Just tell me about the hurricanes again. I need a Gore-base belly laugh.
     
  3. JWBlack

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    Thought it was the other way around.
    Climate change causes warming.

    I never claimed to be science guy just for the record but I do know that ...politics + X = politics
     
  4. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't believe in global warming, but if it's true, why is that a bad thing? Planting crops in Cananda and Siberia is good, right?
     
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    Apparently you don't know then difference between weather and climate.
     
  6. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What an absolute joke. Tell me, how did everyone in the pro global warming community go from calling it global warming to climate change all at the same time? Somebody gave them their marching orders, didn't they?
     
  7. TheTaoOfBill

    TheTaoOfBill Well-Known Member

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    DailyMail is not NASA. DailyMail horribly misunderstood what NASA's numbers meant. Anyone who understands statistics knows that 38% is very high confidence when looking at 132 different options each adding up to 100%

    NASA said 38% for 2014. The next highest was 23% for 2010. Followed by 17% for 2005. Followed by 4% for 1998. The rest of the years are likely <1%. We can very safely rule those years out.

    If we limit it to only the 4 years listed it's 46% 2014 28% 2010 20% 2005 and 5% 1998.

    That means we're ~94% sure the hottest year is within the last decade. And ~74% it's within the last 5.

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    Only if we don't lose our ability to plant crops elsewhere. Like in much of the Southern coast which will be underwater. Or in California which will likely continue seeing harsh droughts.

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    No. It's CO2 in the atmosphere traps heat. Causing global warming. Which changes the climate around the world.

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    No one changed the name. That's a conservative myth. Climate change and global warming are both frequently used. They mean two different things. This article is about global warming. It's the measurement of the global average temperature. Global warming causes climate change. Which is the various changes in climate around the world.
     
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    So local weather is Global Climate now?
     
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    I wish some of that heat would come my way... I'm tired of having to wear hoodies to work at night, and when I get off in the morning.
     
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    SourD New Member Past Donor

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    Ummm no.... Global Warming is the result of CLIMATE CHANGE! When things get warmer or colder it means it is CHANGING! Where do you nuts get your info from? You have spun facts and common sense onto it's head.
     
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    SourD New Member Past Donor

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    Let me educate you since you seem lost. Southern California is (*)(*)(*)(*)ing DESERT! Always has been and always will be. There are ALWAYS droughts there like in ALL deserts. Hence the word DESERT! The water there has been artificially brought in to prop up an artificial echo system that never existed there naturally. You are welcome for the education.
     
  12. TheTaoOfBill

    TheTaoOfBill Well-Known Member

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    So climate just changed on its own?
     
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    SourD New Member Past Donor

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    Um yeah! DUH! It has been doing that for millions of years mr. "scientist"
     
  14. Hoosier8

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    Still not aware of what is causing the spike are you? Again it is the north Pacific heat blob from disruption of the trade winds. The Pacific is warmed by the sun and the winds determine where that heat goes. Same thing that caused the same weather pattern in 33/34, drought in the West and cold in the East.
     
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    No... Nevada is a desert. California is a big state with deserts valleys coasts mountains and luscious forests. California produces more crops than any other state in America. You think they could do that in a desert? Thanks for the education but I think I'll learn from people who actually know what they're talking about.
     
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    Graphs show CO2 rising behind the warming not ahead of it, well the graphs I've seen that is.

    Doubt I've seen them all....I get bored once the politics of the subject begin.

    Of course I firmly be nuclear war or asteroid impact will get us long before climate change will.
     
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    hottest year....since 1880.

    so they're saying there was no weather and climate before 1880?

    lol!!!
     
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    Your thread is about record high temps, which you proved my point when you posted the chart showing the record temps where no one lives. Unless you think Waterworld is more than a movie.
     
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    The game these shysters play is the deceiving game of averages. They say that the world average has risen so that means that it is getting hotter everywhere. Let's compare that to the Left's wealth inequality meme. If the 1% are getting richer and richer, it raises the average wage across the world. So if the same principles are used here, doesn't that mean that EVERYONE is making more money than ever before? Why do they use this silly method for AGW but deny it for wealth averages? We all know why, it's because they are ALL liars and are using their Marxist/Communist tricks of propaganda in both areas. It's so damn obvious.
     
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    This is actually one of the reasons we know this is not a natural climate change event. Normally you are right. In the past during a natural global warming event CO2 has trailed behind the temperature change. That's because the temperature would change and this would release CO2 into the air that was previously locked into the poles. And the extra CO2 would cause another spike in temperature after that.

    But this time around the CO2 is happening first. So we know this extra CO2 didn't come from a temperature shift. It came from us.

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    we don't even know what percent CO2 contributes to the greenhouse affect.

    it may be 10%. It may be 25%. We don't know.
     
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    There was record highs in California, Northern Europe, Eastern Australia, Central and Eastern Africa, South Asia.

    No one lives in these places?
     
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    record highs?

    since what date? 1880?

    weather began in 1880??

    lol!!!!!
     
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    We would be very capable of finding that out. I don't know if there has been a study on it. But it's not particularly relevant. CO2 is just one of the more dangerous greenhouse gases because it never goes away. The only way to get rid of it is to find a place to store it out of the atmosphere. Other greenhouse gases become less harmful things after a certain amount of time. Water vapor for example is a greenhouse gas. But it dissipates in a single day. And methane is a green house gas that's much more potent than CO2. But it can dissipate in 12 years.

    CO2 is the only one that gets locked up there and stays up there for a very long time.
     
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    It will never go away because most of it is created by everything else but man, something like over 97% of it.
     

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