2015 Already Setting Heat Records

And you are basing this claim on what, exactly?

 

Facts, der.

 

the recent increase in CO2 ppm has natural causes?

prove it.

 

Prove it? Ok..What caused the CO2 levels to be much higher than today hundreds of millions of years ago? Answer that and you have your answer.

 

CO2 ppm was much higher than today?

prove it.

 

Science.

That 3.27% is all gasses including Methane. You too could find this out for yourself.



http://www.manhattan-institute.org/energymyths/myth10.htm

 

Boy are you both ignorant and lazy.

http://earthguide.ucsd.edu/virtualmuseum/climatechange2/07_1.shtml


PROVEN!

 

The recent temperature rise is due to the blob in the Pacific and was the primary cause of the record high global surface temperatures reported by GISS, NCDC and the UKMO in 2014.. Normally the trade winds blow it westward and raise cooler waters from the deep in the East. A stubborn ridge in the Pacific has halted that causing the blob. Now some here would claim that this is just weather since it is cause by weather but now that it has been reported as a high global temperature (by one area raising the average) it is a cause celeb of the warmers. The funny part is the North Pacific has actually gotten cooler since 2005.

 

You better hurry and get those galciers melting. The clock is about to run out on the Algore doomsday clock!!!
280 days left!
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2006/01/27/algore_we_have_ten_years_left_before_earth_cooks

 

3% matters when it's something that never goes away. There are natural heat sinks in the world that account for almost all of that 97%. But they don't account for the 3% that is man-made. So overtime that 3% will continue piling up CO2 into the atmosphere which will cause warming.

 

according to the Vostok ice core data, CO2 ppm never reached above 301 ppm.

today, its at 400 ppm.

 

Over population is the main problem. With over population we get the destruction of the rainforests which are Earth's natural CO2 sinks. What do we do about over population? THAT is the REAL answer to this. Since nothing will be done we will continue to kill ourselves off for many reasons. After we are gone, the Earth can finally heal itself.

 

You read my post wrong. It was warm enough 60 million years ago to support herbivore dinosaurs 1200 miles from the north pole. That means plant life to eat too. That also means NO polar ice and an equator so hot the dinosaurs fled north to get away from it. The point is the Earth has gotten VERY hot in the past without man's help. 60 million years ago as well as the Medieval Warm period there was no mass burning of fossil fuels.

Instead of a carbon tax, a deforestation tax would be far more effective at controlling co2.

 

LMAO.... Such BS. 400PPM is NOTHING! You want to know what is causing the rise now mostly? OVERPOPULATION! Destruction of the rainforests which are the Earth's natural CO2 sinks. What do we do about that? Nothing you say? Then there is nothing that can be done to naturally combat CO2 rises and humans are powerless to do anything about it. Get off your high horse if you think we can, we are just big bugs on this planet that are very insignificant in the grand scheme of things.

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THANK YOU!!!!!! This IS fact!

 

so you acknowledged that the Vostok ice cores, which are the standard by which the whole global warming and global climate change argument and models are based, doesn't show CO2 ppm anywhere near today's levels.

 

Evidence?

 

we are in no way "over-populated".

with reasonable land use and farming policies, we could easily double the Earth's population and inhabit much less land.

all humans should live in small cities.

 

I don't believe I misread your post:


There were Herbivore Dinosaurs and the vegetation to support them between 400 to 1200 miles from the North Pole about 60 Million years ago. The fossilized remains of both don't lie. Something cause the Earth to warm to that extent, man didn't exist and the fossils for oil were still walking around and growing from the ground.

The link I gave you was for continental drift and there's been quite a bit of it over millions of years. Yes, at one time the earth was warmer. So what? We know some probable (or very likey) causes, but to say that because fossilized remains have been found in the Arctic, that constitutes some proof that at one time the North Pole was as balmy as Miami in May, it simply isn't.

 

Great news for my tomatoes!

 

See, the AGW community cherry picked their data because it supposedly backs them up. There are other ways to tell what the CO2 levels were besides ice cores. Ice cores aren't all that reliable because due to many reasons especially the fact that they don't go back hundreds of millions of years. You are welcome again.

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You are a piece of work. What? Live in high rises all stacked up on each other? What buffoonery. We ARE over populated. Time to start killing off the feral losers.

 

And the coldest winter in some parts. That's not global it's regional and it's weather.

 

the standard for the whole global warming and climate change theory, has been based on the Vostok ice cores.

but these ice cores show temperatures much higher than today, with much lower CO2 ppm.

uh oh!!!!

 

They don't go back far enough! So, now that you admit that temps can be higher with lower CO2, what is the basis for AGW again? Doesn't this disprove the AGW CO2 meme?

 

yes, temps aren't solely dependent upon CO2 ppm.

that's why the Vostok ice cores show higher temps than today, with a much lower CO2 ppm.

climatologists need to broaden their horizons when it comes to the causes of global temperature changes, such as reinvesting into research of the Malankovitch cycles.

I do not doubt that greenhouse gases and their increase affects global climate.

my only question is: how much?

 

I agree, how much is the key here and more research needs to be done on how the Earth naturally deals with GH gasses. The rainforests are a big one and we destroyed them. As they come back, if we let them, things will balance out again. Even if we stopped completely burning fossil fuels, but continue to deforest the planet, nothing will change and we will just harvest ourselves straight into extinction being the parasites that humans have become. After we are gone, the Earth will return to normal and life will flourish again.