45 Teachers Quit Jobs, Student Violence

are you saying standing your ground is a crime? Martin walked away while Z was in the truck, then Z got out and followed him.... would it freak you out if someone did that while you were walking home, it would many teens imo

 

I can't give you one of a black school either, but I know they booth exist.. geesh

the bad parts of towns exist all over America... black and white

 

I just gave you several examples of schools in Philadelphia.

You're trying to draw an equivalency between the worst white/asian/black areas in this country and there isn't one.

The mental gymnastics necessary to ignore the reality is amazing to me.

 

No it wouldn't freak me out, it would focus me.

If possible I would escape. There's no way Zimmerman chased him down, sorry.

 

I am not gonna look them up for you.. feel free too, plenty out there, just wont find them on storefront or anything

I do not care about the race of the violent students, I want them out of our schools, zero tolerance

 

so when it comes to fight or flight.. you run like heck.... some don't, some do....

I too woudl run like heck... but that is me

fights worth fighting and fights worth avoiding... I also would not of done what Zimmerman did and he was not suppose to do what he did, leave that to the police

 

Disengaging from an unnecessary fight is always the best option in most circumstances.

Of course I'm armed in case that option is unavailable to me, and I have no problem using it if forced to.

 

agree, but Zimmerman and Martin did not think so, they both did the opposite of what you and I would do
both will pay for it, Martin with his life and Zimmerman with being a social outcast

 

If both of those thugs had simultaneously taken each other out, you wouldn't hear me crying about it.

 

Actually it is and why Zimmerman had a right to use lethal force to defend himself in the attack. This was all adjudicated in court and even the Holder DOJ did not file a wrongful death civil rights lawsuit against him.

 

When you have that option, Zimmerman was sucker punched.

 

He was sucker punched. It was Martin who sought out Zimmerman and attacked him. Again this was all adjudicated in court, it was self-defense. Martin caused his own demise.

 

the killer says that, we do not know what really happened
what we do know is z was stalking a young unarmed black man on the way home from the gas station from buying pop and skittles... and both men reacted badly... both men may of thought in their minds they were in the right, when both were in the wrong

the worst thing is that knowing what he new after, he said he would not change a thing if he could go back and repeat it, not even stay in the car

 

Yeah we know what happened it was fully adjudicated with the forensic evidence and testimony. Including the fact there was no stalking, Florida law is quite specific about stalking. The victim was Zimmerman the assailant was Martin. It was a lawful use of lethal force. And yes he would have done as the dispatcher told him, keep an eye on where the person went and let them know what he was doing and which direction he was going. Why are you trying to argue settled matters here?

Zimmerman engaged in a lawful use of lethal force to protect himself from a threat of imminent serious bodily harm and possible death.

 

no we don't but you can keep believing you do, all we have is speculation most of which is based on the killers own words, we will never hear from the victim that was killed as the killer silenced him

 

How do you fix all these school shootings, or is that an inconvenient topic?

 

There's no quick fix. Ultimately the solution would be to bring back the traditional nuclear family and a stable marriage, but even if that started today, you wouldn't see the results for quite awhile. But short-term -

1) Allow public schools the same easy expulsion route that private schools do. There's be a bunch of screams from parents yelling about the loss of due process and all - especially from kids labeled SDC - but if they're acting up, just kick them out. I have two kids who are SDC, one of them is sexually harassing a number of girls at school, another is guilty of theft, assault and battery, and just all-around hooliganism. We can't boot them out because the rules for SDC kids means we have to file much more paperwork to boot them out when they start becoming a threat to others, and yet a huge part of our problems come from those very kids. As for the rest - three strikes, you're out. One strike for violent crimes. Then back it up.

2) For the kids the schools boot out: Have either trade schools ready for the kids judged as wanting to learn, or put these kids on freeway clean-up detail if they don't. Then cut 'em loose at 18.

3) Granted, this one could be tricky, but I have noticed at my school some relationship between kids on some kind of assistance and kids behaving badly. Easy solution there is to back up our words with actions: We keep telling the kids that school is their job, start telling them that if they misbehave - well, they're fired. No more pay - and by that I mean no more assistance. There go your meals, kid - you ain't earning them, you ain't eating. Kind of like how real-life works. Seems a bit draconian, but I kind of suspect actually having a direct relationship between their work and their rewards at taxpayer expense might have a direct effect.

One other thing: A lot of the "solutions" the states come up with - they never seem to ask the teachers what we'd want. It might be nice to ask the people on the front-lines for our opinions.

 

None of these proposed fixes will work. The black baby mommas all think their little didndus are destined to get Ph.d s from Harvard and will either be great rappers or astronauts. Anyone who tries to discipline their angels are simply 'racists'.......end of story

 

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Black males are the #1 problem at urban public schools.

 

Dats a LOT a black kid not gonna git a edgeamukation.

 

zimmerman was charged and that was his story, not martin.

 

The school is the teacher's workplace.

EVERY worker has a right to a violence free, and safe environment. It's the law. It's called OSHA.

If this can not be provided, the worker has the right to bring charges up on the employer.

Remove the hooligans.

 

It was the entire story backed by the evidence as adjudicated in court and as the DOJ confirmed.

Your wishing it diffrent and support of the thug assailent do not change that.

 

And then Martin having run two buildings down to the apartment then returned and confronted Zimmermanat the T junction and attacked him. This was fully adjudicated in court and supported by all the evidence including the stateme t of the girl friend and investigated by the DOJ why are you obsessed with misrepresenting it and falsely claiming Martin was the victim?

 

No we have facts and evidence which proved it was self defense. You don't get to make stuff up in your obsession to falsely accuse Zimmerman.