77% of Students at Baltimore High School Are Reading at Elementary and Kindergarten Level

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  1. Par10

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    Or, it means that they can pay their superintendents etc. more and still not spend crap on students.

    "When the Baltimore City school board voted Tuesday night to approve a $325,000 salary and a four-year contract for its schools chief, Sonja Santelises, the board feared she could be lured away by other school systems."
     
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    yes, kids go to school for more than 7 years, every high schooler today was part of no child left behind

    thus they got dragged along by the no child left behind, no mater how you try to spin it
     
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    A student today in grade 12 would have been in grade f****** five.

    Jesus f****** Christ

    Pretty sure a person with even average intelligence would be able to course correct from great f****** five
     
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    yep, dragged right along, sad.....

    not sure what Jesus has to do with anything, were these religious schools?
     
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    Vouchers... put the parents in control and get the Unions out of power.
     
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    Maybe you should understand the difference between the two policies before you spout off on it.

    https://www.understood.org/articles...student-succeeds-act-and-no-child-left-behind

    Bushes NCLB placed way more importance on the basic skills that current students are failing in as brought up within this thread.

    NCLB "The law also put forward a universal goal that every student in every school be proficient in reading and math."
    NCLB only focused in on the basic **** that again is being brought up in this thread topic

    NCLB focused solely on student academic achievement and primarily used state reading and math test scores when evaluating how schools were doing.

    From what I gather the individual state is more responsible for the growth in teaching curriculum of the students as well as having the parents be slightly more involved versus NCLB being more of a federal level policy and standards.

    So the failure we're talking about right now with regards to Baltimore is entirely the fault of the state
     
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    maybe it's you that needs to refresh yourself with what no child left behind means, it means dragging them along, even if they are not ready
     
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    State control policy bud suck it up this is progressive d****** policies at play here enjoy.

    I just gave you a detailed link describing the differences between the two I'm sorry but you are going to need to come up with a different angle as to how this is a republican problem.

    I actually like the new policy because then it puts the responsibility all on the states. That way we can see progressive d****** policies f*** over their students as their test scores tank.

    Love it
     
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    no child left behind was Bush Policy - you can swear all you want, won't change that

    but your right, both policies are similar

    "Every Student Succeeds Act vs No Child Left Behind Act"
     
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    You say that you agree but you didn't object to legacy and large donation admits until I mentioned them. That's so often the case. Race gets targeted and these areas that "discriminate" against the less privileged are ignored by those who fret about Affirmative Action. This makes me wonder if the angst is about race more than advantage Thirty-three percent of applicants who are legacy students received admission at Harvard in 2021, compared to an overall admissions rate of 5.2 percent. Legacy students are overrepresented at universities. Blacks are still underrepresented.

    The term merit leaves plenty of room for factors that don't involve test scores or grades. Top universities use a holistic admissions process that includes overcoming obstacles, extra-curricular activities, displaying extra initiative (such as starting a business or charity), having a special talent, etc. Harvard's site also includes having integrity, showing concern for others, maturity and a host of other factors that are desirable to them. While these latter attributes might not fall under merit, these are all indicators of success and they will tip the scale when choosing between students who all have the ability to do well.

    Diversity includes geographical diversity, choice of major, special interests, etc. not just race and gender. If you are poor and not a minority, you could still be admitted based on any of these considerations. If you got a lower test score and had a slightly lower GPA than another candidate but you helped raise your siblings and worked because your parents were disabled, why should the student who performed slightly better, with no obstacles, get in over the other student? When evaluating students the reality is that grades and scores are an important factor but there are too many important variables to make them the only factor.

     
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    I remembered that you are a teacher after I posted that.
     
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    That link says Whitman apologizes for her remarks on blacks. Because of the paywall I didn't see much more. Who knows if she knew what she was talking about but it looks like she later apologized.
     
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    No, I don't deny that single parenthood is widespread in the hood.
     
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    77% of Students at Baltimore High School Are Reading at Elementary and Kindergarten Level

    ~ They are ready. Send them off to government boarding school.
     
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    Maybe.
    However in education I am familiar with, the one responsible for standards is the headteacher/principal.
    If these figures are true, s/he needs firing and someone experienced to take over the school until the situation changes.
    Covid lockdowns over two years don't create literacy rates that bad.
    I would also look at what is going on in feeder schools/primary schools.
     
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    From the sounds of it, you haven’t
     
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    Are you kidding me? If I disagreed why in the hell would I put support for the poor over race? Quit patronizing yourself
     
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    The worst part of that is that those numbers are better than I thought.

    I'm surprised they can read at all.

    That's why they put pictures on rap records.

    Otherwise they wouldn't know which ones to steal.
     
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    Nice link backing up your claim that it's not the states fault...

    Oh wait.

    Lol.


    Good one
     
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    I like that last one! I will have to use it!

    Nor do I deny it. But instead of looking at that as a sign of “this kid is ruined” I take it as it is. What I have to work with. I can’t fix the family life problem nor should be expected to. So if we know students dont have books at home, we might have to reorganize the class along those lines. And find ways to help get them books. It’s just part of what I have to work with.

    Also side question- I have been thinking of becoming a teacher. Can I ask you for your opinion on it?
     
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    Explain what you mean by your response to my post.

    Are you saying that bad teachers and a lack of funding cause baby daddy culture to prevail, creates gangs, is disruptive to marriage and is the reason fathers aren't instrumental in raising their children?
     
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    I would assume so but I don’t know for sure.
    Sounds about right. Superintendents are pretty high up there. For better or for worse.
     
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    Why do you think the descendents of slaves who were deprived of an education, then systemically denied access to equal education, subjected to violence if they did try to access an equal education, might not have the highest regards for education? Don’t take “baby daddy” culture as a problem but a form of resistance to state sponsored racism.
     
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    You think these parents are "resisting"? Did they tell you this? Or are you stretching in an effort to justify bad behavior. Your justification doesn't offer hope to black children.

    https://tulsaworld.com/news/educati...cle_9d4c8480-a0a9-11e3-bb77-0017a43b2370.html

    From the link above:

    “I have students who can barely form a sentence or who don’t know their own first names because they’ve only been spoken to in basic commands or called a nickname,” said Patricialynn Holweg, who teaches prekindergarten. “They’re so far behind that even when we make great strides, they’re still behind the others.”
     
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    Oh no I am applying Scott and his ideas of little acts of resistance to the state. Basically find ways of undermining the state by refusal to engage with the legitimacy of the state. Why not join a gang to stick it to the “man”?
     

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