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  1. The Third Man

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    Glad you finally got the truth there. People who get paid to be part of a service that murders innocent people on a regular basis and then claim they don't need psycho help.
     
  2. IgnoranceisBliss

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    Your age is clearly not reflective of your maturity level then. You attempted to demean me by calling me "kid." Here on PF we like to have reasonable discussions without the demeaning and hostile tone you bring to the table.
     
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    You're clearly not very good at understanding sarcasm either, Grandpa.
     
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    What you posted above contradicts what you have posted below. Looks like you cannot make up your mind.

     
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    You're the one that said you could be my Grandfather. I figured I would indulge you.
     
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    You got caught out doing exactly what you were complaining about. Pretty funny.:p
     
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    You called me "kid", I called you "kid". You said you could be my Grandfather, I called you "Grandpa." Seems pretty logical to me. And don't forget the word sarcasm.
     
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    Yes it seems pretty logical to you because you did not think much when you were writing it. You complained about me calling you kid and "how on PF we like to have reasonable discussions without the demeaning and hostile tone" and then you preceded to address me as "Grandpa" which totally contradicts what you were stating. Next time I suggest you take a while to think it through before you rush ahead and make a dick of yourself.
     
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    If you had read my post you'd understand that I used "grandpa" in a post that was in reference to my sarcastic post that you thought was serious. Grandpa was just an additional component of this "sarcasm;" This was in response to your attempt to discredit me by saying that you were old enough to be my grandfather. It wasn't a direct personal attack, try and understand the nuances. Attacking you would have been discrediting you because of your age....which ironically enough you did to me. "Grandpa" was a sarcastic reference to your attempt to discredit me. Do you get it?
     
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    How am I failing?

    I've refuted pretty much every post you've made...

    Of course there's problems everywhere...

    But, to try and imply that rape is rampant in the military is completely wrong...

    It's just an attempt to demonize...

    I found figures that pointed to .008%...

    Not rampant at all...
     
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    No need to try and dig your way out of the ditch you got into,it is there for everyone to see.
     
  12. The Third Man

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    Maybe in your own mind but in the real world you have not refuted anything I have posted.
     
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    Exactly...

    Only here to demonize something they know nothing about...

    That is complete horse(*)(*)(*)(*)...

    My friends who are military are some of the most intelligent people I've known...

    Of course, I know some dumb (*)(*)(*)(*)s too, but, that's the same case in civilian life...

    Why don't y'all stop with the generalizations, and try to get into some facts?
     
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    I showed you recent figures (2010) that gave a figure of .008%...

    Hardly rampant...

    While your links and figures are all over the place, and don't agree with each other in the least...
     
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    He was joking. He is on your side.LOL.
     
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    (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) that's twice in two days I've failed to see sarcasm...

    I need sleep...

    My apologies, Ignorance...
     
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    I showed you news paper reports and surveys covering 30 years from various sources and you failed to refute any of them.
     
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    Sarcasm is hard to spot in written form,it is more easy to spot when talking,many people do not recognise sarcasm when written so no big deal although some people would like to make a big deal out of it.
     
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    Some of your sources said around 2600 in '06 I believe it was...

    Even if you just count active duty, which had 1.3M members in June '06 (http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0004598.html), that's like .002%...

    Still not even close to rampant...
     
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    I think you need a new calculator. Is it not more like 1.5 percent?
     
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    No problem, it was directed towards some other members in more of an "inside" manner.
     
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    One of the silly claims posted earlier was that U.S. military women are more likely to be sexually assaulted than killed by the enemy. If one does the math (which I did in another thread) you'll find that this is completely ridiculous statistic because the death rate due to enemy fire in Iraq for women is actually lower than the death rate for regular civilian women in America. In other words, it's safer for military women to deploy to Iraq than to live at home where they're subject to drunk drivers/accidents/disease etc. This is the type of silly statistic used by feminists.
     
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    Hmm I think you missed the point of your post. which was that US military women are more likely to be sexually assaulted than killed by the enemy. What you have explained is that they are safer from death while serving in Iraq than at home.
     
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    My point is that female military members are EXTREMELY unlikely to be killed in combat. Trying to use it as a comparison for how "rampant" sexual assault in the military is is ridiculous. This military women are also much more likely to be raped by civilains in America than they are to die in combat.

    Here's some numbers I dug up in an earlier post:

     
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    All very nice but not what we are talking about,is it now?
     
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