9 Horrifying Outcomes Of Donald Trump's Muslim Ban

And if your predictions were true, given the millions of Muslims already living here, we should expect to see terrorist attacks on at least a weekly basis. Our average gun owners pose more of a danger, and I say that as an average gun owner. Hell, more people die from choking on candy and chewing gum. None of the Muslims I know remotely fit the description you have given here.

A phobia, even by the most conservative definition.

You need to read up on this somewhere besides Fox news, Bretibart and InfoWars, and actually go out and meet some of the Muslims living here.

The overwhelmingly vast majority of Muslims living here and moving here disagree. They are about as likely to support the authoritarianism that their scriptures teach as Christians are to embrace the slavery preached by their scriptures.

 

Then since we have an ongoing conflict with Muslim terrorists, there should be no problem barring muslims from the country.

Are there places in the ME you can't go if you're a christian, or a jew, or anything BUT a muslim? We know there are.

The ME does not believe in or practice human rights, they believe in the spread of Islam, and that is why they want to come here, to transform the US into another Islamic country.

 

How is it you're such an expert on all muslims living in the US? These people have no loyalty to the US, that's a fact.

Gun owners are more dangerous than your average citizen? I think not.

 

Knowing that there are millions of Muslims in the US and that terrorist attacks here are rare somehow makes me an "expert"? Thanks, I guess?

The vast majority of them commit no violent crimes. That's a fact.

I didn't say that gun owners are more dangerous than your average citizen. I said that your average American gun owner is more dangerous than your average American Muslim.

Since when are all American gun owners CCW holders? Weird.

 

And I'm questioning how you could possibly know this about muslims in the US? How do you know they're so peace loving?

You don't get any more "gun owner" than someone that has a CCW.

 

Because, despite there being millions of them here, terrorist attacks are more rare than death by lighting strike.

 

Wait, so if something COSTS us a lot of money its a GOOD thing? Paying 1+ billion to bring in people who can NOT be properly vetted, costs quite a lot. ALl they have to do is have a baby and BAM, instant citizenship and you and me are on the hook for welfare for as long as they feel like it, since we are so STUPIDLY charitable like that. Simply put, someone who isn't in the country has a 100% chance of NOT killing American citizens on our soil. THAT's a FACT!!! Paying for them to come over and betting that they won't do anything is NO DIFFERENT that you choosing not to wear a seat belt every day, because hey, the odds are in your favor? But you're correct, the seat belt is free. But immigrants are NOT FREE. They cost YOU and ME money, UNLESS they can pay to come over themselves or have an education and are filling jobs that can NOT be filled otherwise. That of course is a JOKE, because only in extremely rare circumstances are immigrants better at any job that citizens are. We DON'T NEED IMMIGRANTS right now. The poor are already producing like rabbits, insuring the movie Idocracy comes true=)

 

I'm not seeing a compelling argument to bring more people here from countries that have nothing to do with US values.

 

I'm not seeing a compelling argument for throwing away US values and banning entry based on religion. Trump and crew are the ones wanting to change things. I have yet to see anything approaching a reasonable justification.

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I'm not seeing a compelling argument for throwing away US values and banning entry based on religion. Trump and crew are the ones wanting to change things. I have yet to see anything approaching a reasonable justification.

 

There is one compelling argument. Many muslims commit, condone, or support mass killing of US citizens, and they are simply not compatible with western culture.

All you have to do is look at Europe to find out how well they integrate.

We have enough people, let them stay in their own countries.

 

If they couldn't integrate, then how come millions of them have integrated? No, we don't need to look at Europe because we've already had plenty of success here. If even so much as half of a percent of the Muslims here were terrorists, we'd have terrorist attacks literally every day. We don't.

 

Christ never supported slavery, but Mohammed did, as well as rape and child sex, and the inferiority of all nonbelievers of Islam.

This is and will indefinitely continue to be a problem whether you are open-minded enough to admit it or not.

Anyone in a minority situation is going to act "nice" to the larger culture. What you need to do is travel as a non-Muslim local woman, unescorted, in, say, Saudi Arabia to get the real picture--or, perhaps, be a little Azidi girl with your village under attack.

Even in Turkey, when a female acquaintance of mine visited a local market in the presence of two adult male companions, an offer was made to purchase her by a local male.

You simply have no idea, and apparently do not believe what is available on the subject. Do you really think so many would be so concerned if there was not some truth behind the concerns? What other motive would so many people have to set up websites and make cartoon campaigns to warn people? Do you think these people are doing this out of racism and hatred? If so, you have a very poor opinion of people that are doing their best to assure that Western culture prevails in the face of a new attack by an old and relentless enemy--Islam. It is necessary to understand the power of that religion to bring grief to any Muslim that does not support it fully, and members of other religions that do not wish to convert. The danger is its ability to revert to an atavistic form at any time and under any circumstance where there is disaffection or dissatisfaction in a Muslim population, or where their numbers begin to increase by 5% or more.

IMO, if the Spaniards and other Europeans had been unable to expel Islam, the Industrial Revolution would never have happened.

https://www.google.com/webhp?source...1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=muslim dangerous religion


No matter how enlightened your Muslim friends appear to be, as a group they eventually start pushing for Sharia law, which denies such basics as freedom of religion and freedom of speech...and do you really believe that most of them would act as apostates in the face of a death penalty for apostacy?


http://www.christianpost.com/news/w...r-religions-sharia-jihad-and-muhammad-139134/

 

Millions of Muslims have shown no desire to produce anything like this. It is an unreasonable fear of a highly improbable event.

 

I think that is backwards. I am moderate and don't jump to knee jerk reactions.
Those saying keep everyone out are the all or nothing type.

 

Try reading this link, which Margot2 posted in another thread.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rita_Katz

You are entitled to your opinion, but IMO it is based on ignorance and a PC rigidity that could destroy our country.

Have a nice day.

 

If stereotyping and false overgeneralizations are all you have to keep an argument going against what you believe are false generalizations and stereotyping, there is no answer that will reach you.

There has been plenty of information posted and linked to in current threads to give anyone pause when considering just how many Muslims can safely be introduced into our culture.

It should be obvious, watching what is happening in the Mideast and Europe, and beginning to happen in our own country, that too many Muslims are poison to a different culture. The problem begins at approximately 5 %, and the typical behaviors associated with increasing concentrations have been widely posted in here.

Either you pay attention or you don't.

Have a nice day.

 

Feel free to point to anything that she said which contradicts anything that I have said.

 

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Hillary lie??? Who could have seen that coming....besides everyone alive.

 

I see... So you're going to pretend that all Muslims abide by 100% of their scriptures while pretending that Christians don't pay any attention to the OT of the Bible.

Please explain why so many "Christians" were so opposed to gay marriage, even though Christ never said anything about homosexuality.

 

IMO most Muslims do not continuously abide by 100% of their scriptures. However, they and their progeny all have the potential to do so at some point.

Informed mainstream Christians do not govern or justify their actions by reference to the Old Testament.

IMO when enough people became publicly disturbed by the gay movement, members of nontraditional, non-mainstream "Christians" dug through their Old Testaments for a justification of their stance.

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You need to remember, in considering the implications of all of the above, that very few American Christians attempt to memorize the Bible, whereas countless child students of Islam are still expected to do so.

Obviously, due to this childhood memorization, vicious and violent teachings in Islam would therefore come to the minds of those who had memorized them more quickly and powerfully than would some Christian preacher's quoting the Old Testament from a pulpit to the adult minds of even the least mainstream Christian congregation. Additionally, even in such a congregation, parishioners would still have the core teachings of the Ten Commandments (which include "Thou shall not kill" ) and Christ's words to counter whatever OT teaching their preacher was quoting.

The reverse is true in Islam. In Islamic scripture, Mohammed's followers often seemed reluctant to be as bloodthirsty as he wished, and as he exhorted them to be, with religious threats and promises. A true devotee of Islam might actually have no extraneous motivation to commit gruesome acts of jihad except for what is said in the Koran and other Islamic writings, whereas a Christian would have to first have such an extraneous motivation, and then go against both the Ten Commandments and Christ's teachings to act upon his prejudice.

There is a real and powerful difference between the two religions, especially in the case of new or naive followers that lack guidance from mainstream teachers.

As the twig is bent...

And then, of course, you have the fundamentalist religious groups in Islam that deliberately emphasize those teachings.

 

Really? So you believe that Christians who oppose/opposed gay marriage are not "informed"?

I agree that American Christians prefer to cherry-pick verses out of the Bible, just as extremists in Islam do the same.
You need to remember, in considering the implications of the above, that the Bible is far more violent than the Quran.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=124494788

I call BS, particularly as Christians have routinely used Biblical scripture to justify all manner of behavior (eg: the KKK using the Bible to justify racism).
Remind me again what God's direct instructions were to Saul for dealing with the Amalekites (Samuel 15:1-3).

Which are no different to the fundamentalist groups in Christianity that deliberately emphasize those teachings.

 

The bottom line is that a correct interpretation of Christianity produces teachings against violence, whereas the reverse is true of Islam.

There is no getting around this except by deliberate ignorance. This line of discussion is ended for me with you, as I will not tolerate pointless and endless discussion on an obvious topic. Possibly you are totally ignorant of the core tenets of Christianity, but it is not my job to educate you and IMO in light of your apparent willful ignorance it would be effort wasted.

You might want to consider what could have happened to Mahatma Gandhi had the English been Muslim rather than Christian.

Have a nice day.

 

Would you give full religious rights to people for whom Human sacrifice of unwilling victims was a major cornerstone of their religious beliefs?

 

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