A Chinese government spokesperson said the US committed 'evil crimes' against Native Americans....

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  1. notme

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    You're not replying to what supposedly happend to the children of the Nazi's. Native American children got send off to slave around on boarding "schools" where they weren't allowed to speak their native language, weren't allowed to continue with their religion, where they were renamed and all in all got their culture totally beaten out of them. The death rate was sky high. No such things happened to children of nazi's. You're just talking nonsense.
     
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    I would go with a simple "no."
    I think a wider population of women and minorities would have continued support for our government. China? I don't think a free people would support the CPC.
     
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    I didn't think you would deal with my post where you asked for detail.

    Biden didn't "open" the border.

    No President has shut down illegal immigration. None of them.
     
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    Ok...he just gutted ICE and the Border Patrol... stopped sending back illegals... and allowed tens of thousands more illegals to come streaming across the border than Trump did.
     
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    No President may ever be able to "sht it down".... but did you know there's a difference between THOUSANDS and HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS?
     
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    If either of us is an "America-hater," it would be you. I'm willing to live with both liberals and conservatives. You support a guy who tried to steal an election because you don't like liberals.
    Just like the oil the Gulf Coast refineries import now.
    We're not at the mercy of OPEC. Most of our allies are, however, and that impacts us.
    We pivoted on government-run launch vehicles long before Trump.
    We're using Canadian hydro and natural gas. We're not energy independent, nor is there any reason we shouldn't use Canadian natural resources instead of trying to be self-sufficient. They have the second largest treasure of raw materials in the world.
    And Trump left the front door open ... over half of illegals here today overstayed a visa. He didn't crack down on employers hiring illegals, including his own businesses.

    Are you onboard for a national ID that replaces Social Security?
    It was never part of the curriculum. You're smearing teachers by promulgating Trumper lies.
    Trump didn't do anything in 2020.
    No, I'm talking about handing out lots of bucks. People shifted consumption to foreign-made goods.
    Supply chains can't grow large enough quickly to handle a 25% increase of Chinese imports. It looks to me as you have a weak understanding of the problem.
    Biden hadn't been in office long enough to cause shortages and price increases.
    You don't know much a out gas prices, either, it seems.

    https://gasprices.aaa.com/state-gas-price-averages/
    You guys don't even like Fox News any longer. Egads.
     
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    So, because I'm a white male, I'm supposed to pay reparations? How about Jewish males who have faced discrimination?
    I'm well aware of what happened to Native Americans and how they're still treated badly. I taught history to high school students and adults as part of my timetable for 30+ years.

    You might try to avoid striking out at people who seek clarification of your ideas.
     
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    Trump didn't go after employers hiring illegals.

    I want real solutions, not "border walls" and little else.
     
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    OPEC sets oil prices FOR us now... not when we were "energy independent" though.
    Until Trump gave out the commercial contract to an American company for launch vehicle rockets, we were hitchhiking rides on Russian launches. Before that contract there were no American commercially built rockets used.
    I agree, we are no longer energy independent. We were under Trump... but no longer.
    What does overstaying visas have to do with an open border> Nice try at deflection. It didn't work. Borders... fences... patrols...
     
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    The subject is BORDERS... BORDERS... employment and visas is a different subject. Obviously valid to discuss those things too... but the focus here is on BORDERS.
     
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    Illegal immigration depends upon them having access to paid work. I want to cut that off. Yeah, we try to catch them at the border, but we make it really difficult to get paid employment. Someone has to end the game of using illegals for cheap labor.

    Am I the one around here serious about the matter? I say we should decide how many, exactly who, and what status they have when they get here. We decide. Refugees? We decide who and their status.

    Enforcing the laws on the books would be an excellent start.
     
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    The topic is, "A Chinese government spokesperson said the US committed 'evil crimes' against Native Americans...."

    "Borders" is about illegal immigrants. My comments have been about a national ID card to replace a lot of government cards. Everyone allowed to work here should have one. You can read it with a smartphone app and determine whether or not the individual holding it can work here.

    We can cut down the number of people here illegally if they can't find work. Why run the border?
     
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    Why run the border? With a knapsack filled with drugs? You're kidding... right?
    And with NYC giving cash to illegals without ID... free medical and all the rest? Heck... AMERICANS don't want to work anymore... why should work influence illegals?
     
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    I generally agree. But in our current society if you don't want to work you don't have to work. I don't see employment as a big influence. Spot on, though about the status.
     
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    I do not recall that Jews were put in an American gulag to cleanse out their religion like they whites did to the natives.

    You say that, while you were flat out completely downplaying what happened to Jim Thorpe, by casually leaving out how he was dragged across multiple state lines to get his heritage cleansed out of him, by just saying that he died close to where he was born hinting that nothing really happened to him. It's just disgusting what you did, and you just edited out my reply from that dumb downplaying attempt of yours. Seems typical that this is how kids are taught history in the US by the likes of you.
     
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    They only set the price on what they sell. Canada and the U.S. aren't OPEC members.
    A lot of private stuff was under development before January 20, 2017.
    As I said, we import their electricity. Their oil. Their aluminum made with their electricity.
    Are you serious? If we shut off the money, we make it far less likely someone will overstay a visa, or try to sneak across the border. It also makes it more likely they'll leave.
     
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    It goes without saying we remove them if they aren't here legally.
     
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    OPEC sets the international cost of a barrel of oil.
    It was UNDER DEVELOPMENT... . Four launches failed and money was running out. A FIFTH launch was successful. As a result, Trump authorized a contract with NASA that made them financially healthy again.
    What part of "energy independent" do you not understand? Yes... we import. But OVERALL, we produced MORE energy than we CONSUMED under Trump. Not anymore.
     
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    We DON'T remove them though.
     
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    We can enforce laws on giving them employment even if we have to have feds do it. I don't think many states want to support illegals forever.
     
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    Well... maybe blue states do.
     
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    For a couple of years. The trends under Obama were moving in that direction, btw. Fracking.

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    Why is it so important to you, anyway? Canada is a secure source and there at least 200 billion barrels of recoverable oil in Alberta.
     
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    China has troops training in China from time to time. Canadian tariffs aren't all that friendly. "Secure source"? I wouldn't bet my grandkids' future on it.
     
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    There was discrimination against Jews, sometimes by the very people you think Jews should compensate.
    I knew about Jim Thorpe because he lived in Lomita, CA in a trailer park. People talked his dying there for years. Yout claim is nonsense.
    Huh? He was born in Oklahoma, not Southern California. I indicated my view he was mistreated.
    Your post was always linked so the entirety of your comments were available.
     
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    Who are you responding to?
     

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