A Real Patriot Speaks Out

That's what they called it when some wanted welfare recipients to work for the money they were given. We had a draft and people like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson complained about how unfair it was to minorities, so the draft was abolished. Now the same crowd is complaining because kids from wealthy families aren't volunteering.
But if you have a draft, the women, snowflakes, and the transgendered should also be forced to serve.

 

Amen brother.

If the Equality police REALLY wanted better equality, it would get rid of the female PT standards and pay the same for same work (this is sexism really how it is now).

Now because science has already proven that women have 60% of the upper body strength as men (the PT tests are weighted the same way)---then there would be at least 40% of the women failing PT standards and leaving the service. There would also be 40% less women able to qualify just to do an Air Force desk job.

 

EXACTLY!!!

 

I wish to voice my support for your position.
When I enlisted in 1967, the Marines were 100% volunteer. I understand they drafted for a while, but I wasn't drafted.
I thought I was fighting communism - which I'd been taught to hate.
While I was in country, 2 things hit me - it wasn't about communism for the Vietnamese - it was about throwing foreigners out of their country. We were the foreigners, propping up a corrupt and puppet government.
The second thing was that while communism may suck, it had nothing to do with the problems in America - communism didn't give us racial inequality, inner city slums, falling bridges, polluted air and water,.... - it's the old "don't look here, look there" political trick. Now it is "Radical Islamic Terrorism" we are supposed to focus on.
I was also taught that in Nuremberg it wasn't a valid defense to say, "I was only following orders".
We are very close to having an army of mercenaries. Many of the tasks we did in the Marines are "outsourced" today to the likes of Blackwater or whatever they call themselves now - exempt from the law.
Worth noting that Rome fell after it began using mercenaries for its army.
To me a measure of the "validity" of a war is the world-wide support. Bosnia, 1st Gulf war - UN sanctioned.
Iraq - not UN sanctioned.
I know, the fascists hate the UN - but it is the best thing for peace there is for now.

 

As shown in the Congressional hearings on the subject, more men are raped in the military than women.

 

Must be so. I keep hearing the coward-in-chief insist we have to "rebuild our military" - as if spending more than the next 7, 8 nations COMBINED isn't enough.

 

Does Rick Santorum and Mike Pence know that????
THose 2 homophobes think more about homosexuals than any straight man has a right to....

Sorry for thread-jack....

 

Well you can thank the liberals for that too.

 

Unlike the last eight years, our soldiers, Marines, sailors and airmen aren't being forced to obey PC rules of engagement that has been the root cause of 50% of the casualties under the Obama administration. No more bleeding and dying on the battlefield in the name of political correctness. Our troops are being allowed to fight they ways they are suppose to be fighting.

Re: Montel Williams, an affirmative action officer of the 1970's. A graduate of Annapolis and commissioned as a "Restricted Line Officer" meaning not qualified to command at sea or at war. Pretty strange for someone who graduated from the U.S. Naval Academy.

 

How is it unfair if every male has to serve, as long as, there is no special treatment being given.

 

WTH?? When President Clinton sent troops to Bosnia, do you think he sent Chelsea?

 

For the continually offended anything Trump says will be offensive. Old soldier here and found nothing more offensive than the left wing anti-American narrative.

 

No...Clinton sent a liberal general, Gen. Wesley Clark better remembered as 'THE GUY WHO ALMOST STARTED WORLD WAR III' -> http://www.antiwar.com/orig/jatras12.html

Why are liberals always trying to start WW lll ?

 

Which was ENTIRELY about Mango Mussolini's comments and the reaction to them. YOU are the one who wandered off into the woods to deflect/distract from that.

 

Why would someone be butt hurt over anything Trump says? He has used that "like never before" line so many times on so many different issues it has as much weight as when Obama would say “Let me be clear”

So where is the rub? Is it
A. more nit picking by folks with nothing better to do or
B. a nerve was struck due to deep seeded feelings of guilt or regret.

 

Awwwww....Bless your heart.

 

Yes, President Trump said our troops currently in active combat are fighting like never before - and of course this makes some Democrats on the forum FURIOUS because he did not give what would have been the Democratic Party's statement: "Our troops in Afghanistan have been ordered to stand down and their weapons taken away to stop them for murdering thousands more innocent women and children."

Since President Trump did not call our military a collection of mass murderers this predictably outrages many Democrats. Just ask that Democratic professor who the mere presence of American military personnel makes him "want to vomit." That is now one of the more dominant Democratic Party perspectives towards our military now - our military murders innocent civilians.

 

No it won't.

To the contrary it would be outright sadistic to have women in combat zones, even if not in an infantry or Marine fighting unit, to not be put thru PT training that isn't designs singularly for men and designed so women fail. Any person in a war zone, even believed to be a safe area, can come under attack. An increasing number of critical technical and maintenance personnel - where the greatest shortage of military personnel is - are women. It is sadistic to suggest they be deliberately denied combat training in case their position comes under attack.

 

THAT is what many Democrats wanted Trump to say instead. To call our military personnel mercenaries and murderers.

 

And women maintainers and technicians to keep the aircraft flying.

More women are in direct combat and combat zones than people realize. There is such as massive amount of extra paperwork and pre-approvals required if a woman goes into a combat area on a mission that it is not rare for them literally be kept off the books. Someone we know very well is a woman in the Air Force is a highly trained and specialized technician including in regards to air combat missions. She went on over 50 combat missions, including coming under missile attack in the air and mortar attacks on the ground. Yet by her record she has never been on a single mission. Not only would that have required a great amount of paperwork, but it also would have required pre-approval and there was never enough time to obtain it.

Without her? No mission could happen because who actually did the mission work was her. Sure, pilots could have flown there - and flown back - but there would have been no point to it. Unless of course they were taken out by one of those missiles or mortar rounds due to lack of her presence.

She did pass PT and to male standards, marksmen medal on her first try, and could probably beat the ____ out of most men. Also an expert in throwing knives and is a mountain climber. But those are not way COs want her. It is for her technical knowledge, skills and proven record of mission successes.

It is accurate that many - if not most - male commanders of grunts tend to only want men and will do anything to make it so no female can qualify. So do most veterans of on all-male military past. But such COs and grunts are ignorant men going nowhere in their careers. Commanders who advance now are those whose focus is mission success, not personal ego and slogans - and thus do not care about race, age, appearance, size, strength, sexual orientation, or sex of personnel. They care about one thing and one thing only: who can best get the job done.

Both grunts and COs who view the military as a macho contest over who can bench press more have only slightly more value than a pack mule, though the mule can carry much more.

 

They learned nothing from Pvt Jessica Lynch.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/20/us/jessica-lynch-where-is-she-now/

 

Since Trump has changed no rules of engagement, when did this happen?

What was Trumps rank in the military? You must be one of those yellow striped individuals when you try to denigrate one who actually served with your half baked lies:


"Restricted Line Officers - Restricted Line Officers are officers of the line of the Regular Navy and Naval Reserve who are restricted in the performance of duty by having been designated for aviation duty, engineering duty, aerospace engineering duty, or special duty.

Examples are: Aviation Maintenance Officers, Specialists in Information / Cryptographic Support, Intelligence, Automatic Data Processing, Public Affairs, and Oceanography. As with Unrestricted Line Officers, these officers are also commissioned through OCS, the Naval Academy, or ROTC. Typically, it is a medical disqualification (note to fools: Montel Williams has MS) that prohibits an officer candidate to pursue unrestricted line through the Naval Academy or Naval ROTC and they must select restricted line or staff corps.

However, officer candidates who apply through OCS may select restricted line options that are open to them regardless of medical disqualification for unrestricted line on an as needed basis by the Navy.

The number designators associated with many of these jobs are: 1200 - Human Resources Officer, 1800 - Oceanography Officer, Intel Officer 1830, 1940 - Cyber Warfare Engineer."

 

Not sure how the mind of the fool works. How old was Chelsea? And why didn't you mention the other coward Bush, and his daughters? Problem is that too many who support wars are unwilling to fight in them, nor send their children. Then you have the "service" of Bush43 where he was protected by daddy just as Gore was protected by his daddy.

 

Let's thank conservatives instead.

 

All they need do is to read their own Congressional reports or the conservative Washington Times:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/may/20/victims-of-sex-assaults-in-military-are-mostly-sil/