Abortion

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Lesh, Dec 9, 2017.

  1. Lesh

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    Hardly.

    There were far more women DYING from back alley abortions.

    There were far more kids sitting in foster care/foundling hospitals (See Cider House Rules).

    It was pretty friggin awful...well unless you had money anyway

    I love that you talk about welfare as if it is an evil but abortion as well.

    You are EXACTLY the anti-abortion type I was talking about.

    The minute that baby you insist gets born...you abandon it...regardless of the life it will face....a life you have forced on it
     
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    Are you one of those who screams at pregnant teens outside abortion clinics?
     
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    You can call it potato salad if you like as long as it remains legal and available. Its not going anywhere
     
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    If I were in moore's district I would not support him. I couldn't. Though I'm pro life I find his actions repugnant.
     
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    At 4 weeks, the brain has begun to form. By 12 weeks, head growth slows. At 12 weeks, the baby can move its fingers and make a fist. At 20 weeks, the baby can hear. After a baby is born, we know that its brain continues to develop.
     
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    According to who? You?
     
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    If they can prove that the "soul" (some magic thing that magically survives our death, so that Jesus can torture it or let it into "heaven") actually exists, and they haven't in about 180,000 years of the existence of our species, then I'd be more inclined to be anti-abortion. Since if the "soul" actually existed then that would give more credence to the belief that an 8-cell zygote is "just like a regular grown person" - because both have, arguably, the same "soul", as such.

    Too bad "Jesus" doesn't love unborn-to-be-aborted babies enough to simply use his magic ninja X-man superpowers to provide said evidence. Too bad, since millions and millions of babies will get aborted because of Jesus' hatred for the unborn. If I had evidence, like the "all-powerful, and all-knowing, and all-loving" Jesus would of course have, that the "soul" actually existed I'd have given it to the world years ago - but I care for humanity more than Jesus does, of course.
     
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    That Tim Tebow anti-abortion Superbowl ad controversy was a pretty interesting:
     
  9. Oh Yeah

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    This is where the argument begins. First of all what responsibility do I have for a couple who engage in sex and conceive a child? If a child is conceived then it is the responsibility of the mother and the father for the welfare of the child. It is not a matter of wanting the child or not but a matter of responsibility. The answer is that the wrong things are being taught in sex education. What should be taught is that if one wants to engage in sex and a child is conceived then it is not society's responsibility to raise the child but the parents who will be held responsible. If the child, who is a minor, engages in sex and a child is conceived then the parents will be responsible for the well being of the conceived child until the biological parents are able to fulfil their responsibilities. In rare cases that society has to take care of a child, then yes, all will and should be done for the welfare of the child. Is that a panacea for the child, not always, but it is a better option than never giving the child a chance. In some cases where the parents are unfit then the child should be taken into custody and the parents given the opportunity to learn parenting skills or the child placed in foster care or be available for adoption. Again not a perfect solution but still better than the alternative of abortion.
     
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    No what it appears is that they resent and fear those with more education but I could be wrong
     
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    Bottom line

    COUPLE

    Takes two to tango

    I still think the best solution is to make it mandatory for all young men to do a sperm donation and then be sterilised. Problem solved no unwanted pregnancies no abortions
     
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    Too simplistic... and wrong, given that Roy Moore is better educated than Doug Jones....

    PS Trump won white educated vote by a substantial margin.
     
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    They would most likely end up in children's homes.
    Before contraception and legal abortions some of the homes were massive,some having room for 1000 + children.
     
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    Rubbish.
    Since abortion was illegal how does any one know the true figures of the abortion rate,the only time it came to notice was when it went wrong and the woman had to seek medical help.
    As for unwanted children there were hundreds of thousands of them.Children's Homes in cities were huge,some holding over a thousand.
     
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    Moore, the Filth Child Molester, knows that Really Stupid People vote for you if you claim you are Anti-Abortion even if you've never did anything about it and never will.


    The misogynists and Other Frightened Little "Men" adore the rhetoric of their dreams of total domination and subjugation of women.....
     
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    Check the UVVA, Unborn Victims of Violence Act...THAT is what makes it an offense. It does NOT make the unborn persons with rights.

    Repeat: It does NOT make a fetus a person with rights. It recognizes the fetus as a VICTIM, NOT a person with rights. I think the purpose is to impose harshger sentences on those who kill pregnant women or deprive them of their fetus.

    There is no CHILD either way, there IS a fetus, the word science and the law use...and they beat out the emotional hyperbole of "child".
     
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    Why do you liberals want to take the fun out of everything? I'll make my babies the old fashion way if you don't mind.
     
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    :) Only a righty could be so confused :)
     
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    Is Roy Moore from the Middle East or a Muslim?
     
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    Who wanted to take your fun away??? WTF are you talking about.......now liberals are trying to alter your sex life!!! What???
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Moore, the Filth Child Molester, knows that Really Stupid People vote for you if you claim you are Anti-Abortion even if you've never did anything about it and never will.


    The misogynists and Other Frightened Little "Men" adore the rhetoric of their dreams of total domination and subjugation of women.....





    I doubt it but he, and his followers , seems to have the same ideas about women as Muslims do.....adore the rhetoric of their dreams of total domination and subjugation of women.....
     
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    Have ya called the cops??? Why not ? :)
     
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    Perfect response...
     
  24. Oh Yeah

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    It's a reply to Bowerbird post 87
     
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    No. I might ask you if you go to an abortion clinic and tell the teen that there are other actions she can take besides killing her unborn baby??????????
     

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