About time Christians come out of the closet

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  1. Trinnity

    Trinnity Banned

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    We know where most of those problems lie and it's not in the Christian community. The Christian community for the most part consists of 2 parent families, people with jobs, kids who stay in school. These are people of all races too.
     
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    Osiris Faction Well-Known Member

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    Really? That's pretty funny when you see catholics raping children, preachers stealing from the church, and mega church leaders paying for gay prostitutes and smoking meth.
     
  3. Trinnity

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    That notion is patently false. I personally believe God created everything and physics and science are God's way of making things function in a real, practical, logical way.

    I've never met anyone in my entire life who thinks the Earth is 6000 years old.
     
  4. Jack Napier

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    I see.

    Where does it lie then.

    Who are these corporates the rape your nation?

    Who are these puppet masters, that have your politicians by the balls?

    Who are these people that use knives, guns, and clubs on others, in cases of violent crime?

    Who are these racists and bigots, something that I am sure Jesus would not have approved of, that exist in the US?

    Who are these greedy people, that Jesus would not have approved of, in the US?

    I've been told by Americans that you nation is in the crapper, and has been long before the scapegoat of the right - Obama.

    80% of your nation are Christian.

    Assuming that they are all busy sticking to those Christian values, how comes the US is in such a mess then?

    You would think that with 80% of people sticking to the values of Jesus, you'd have an almost problem free society, with no poverty, no homeless, no aggressive Gov's, not unless Jesus was into carrying an AK47 around.

    Do you think Jesus would have been into guns, then?
     
  5. Jack Napier

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    Creationists do, and want that taught in schools, in many cases.

    But that 6000 did come from somewhere, and so did the assertion that the sun revolved around the Earth.

    What book do you think made those claims, that have now obviously been shown to be entirely false?
     
  6. Osiris Faction

    Osiris Faction Well-Known Member

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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wzjjxi7f0Oc"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wzjjxi7f0Oc[/ame]

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1msS71xL00&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1msS71xL00&feature=related[/ame]

    But you know what...not all religious people are this ignorant. Some are actually logical and honest.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYQuvwQ4y-k"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYQuvwQ4y-k[/ame]
     
  7. Jack Napier

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    What we really need, are more good Christian Americans, like this guy..

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6rSjrBhUIA"]Ted Haggard Bashing Gays - from JESUS CAMP the Movie ON DVD - YouTube[/ame]

    Fine and upstanding Christian hetro, drug free...

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ac2TXm5v6fs&feature=related"]Ted Haggard His Male Prostitute And Meth - YouTube[/ame]
     
  8. Rapunzel

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    That was in a physical way, not spiritually.

    John 3:16
     
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    So do they speak for all Christians?
     
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    That does not address my question.
     
  11. Jack Napier

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    What difference does it make.

    Is god always around, or not?

    Omnipresent, omnipotent, knows the thoughts of every single person, at every single moment, for their entire life, etc.

    If god doesn't appear to be around, then perhaps it is because he actually isn't.

    The bible says it is okay for god to appear in physical form.

    The bible says that whatever you pray for, it will be given,


    Mark 11:24

    Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them.

    So now that we know that it is okay for god to appear, and now that we know that if we pray, then we SHALL have what we desire, shall we all try praying for god to appear, and report back?

    Seriously?
     
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    Mark 11:24 says "believe that you have received it, and it will be yours." How many pray but truly do not believe.
     
  13. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The video is beautiful, cheerful and uplifting, and I'm not even a Christian. It's not exactly viral, but been watched close to 7,000 times in less then 24 hours... what;s interesting is that a compatible number of people rated it as good and as bad, but who would not you like this great video unless you have an agenda?

    Oh, and I much rather have skrul teach my kids a religious history, than to teach them about goodness of LGBT :mrgreen:

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1fdAHbUM9o&feature=related"]John 3:16 Ad Airs During Broncos Patriots NFL Playoff Game - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    They are the uneducated and ignorant.

    I am wondering is it only American Christians who believe this tosh, or do European Christians believe this also?
     
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    You figure it out.
     
  16. Trinnity

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    I see this thread has devolved into yet another Christian bash fest by hate filled militant atheist progressives. So much for liberal tolerance. You'd love us if we were Muslim, right?

    I have never tried to convert anyone or press my religion on anyone in my entire life. I've tried as much as possible to live by the Golden Rule, be kind to people I meet, and be a good example to others in general.

    Why can't you all stop attacking Christians? Why are you so strident and aggressive? Do you want us to hate you back? Why are you all trying so hard to accomplish that? I don't care if you go to Heaven or burn in Hell. It's YOUR problem.
     
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    I don't believe in heaven or hell, so your threats are nothing but hot air and sand.
     
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    Jesus never condemned homosexuality in his ministry. However the haters of religion do what ever they can to diminish those that believe in God. I say there is this thing called a remote control on the TV. If a hater is watching the plasma (no longer is it the tube ha ha) and a troubling Christian message AKA commercial is aired that offends said hater, I recommended they change the channel or mash that little button that says m-u-t-e. If however they don't or wont use the remote control they have a need for an attitude adjustment. Hopefully then the haters will themselves understand its not the Christians that have the problem, it is they that bear the responsibility for their ill will to a group of people that love them.

    ~rv~
     
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    I was struggling to understand the language of the kids in the ad and how it related to the ideas the adults started posting about.
    The ad seems clear to me. It totally endorses a gay lifestyle (whatever that is). The kids are perfectly clear. Everyone, Anyone. Whoever believes in him...life eternal. No exceptions, exclusions, terms & conditions, small print or retrospective taxes.
    All this extra stuff must be adult limitations on an otherwise beautiful concept.
    Not quite as beautiful IMO as: Whoever you are....life eternal.
    But if you don't create a profile on facebook, how else will you know how many people want be your friend?
     
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    Exactly. You hit the nail on the head here.
     
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    God bless you Trinnity. The reason the haters are so filled with toxic emotion and an agenda to project/transfer their toxicity to we Christians is not all their fault. They are satanically influenced as per our bibles prophetic scripture tells us. The hate emerges in these days with the same repugnant virulence that it owned in the old world of ancient Rome. Just as they hated Jesus our lord in those days Jesus foretold 2000 years ago that in the last days Christians, his followers would be hated again by the (PC, satanically led) world. For reference see ; Isaiah 53:3 Isaiah 49:7. It should also be noted that in the Bible one of the names of Satan "Ruler of this world" John 12:31.

    So the word goes on; "If the world hates you, you know that it hated Me before it hated you. If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you." (John 15:18-19).

    I am splitting this in two posts due to the length~

    continued on the next post ~
     
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    .........................................continued, AKA part 2 ...................................................



    I say praise God that we are hated! Its because look at all the hate that is reserved for Christians on the net! Look at the hate that is poured on Christians in the media. Worse look at all the Christians that are dying in the world RIGHT NOW because they are christian!!! How can this be good??? Its GOOD because RIGHT BEFORE OUR EYES the word of God SPOKEN OVER 2000 years ago is becoming true and scripture being fulfilled RIGHT before our eyes!

    Ok then, how do I validate saying they are influenced by their evil otherworldly leader ie Abaddon* (See Rev. 9:11) ? Read on sister;

    And Jesus prayed, "I have given them Your word; and the world has hated them (those Christians who love and follow Jesus Christ the Messiah) because they are not of the world, just as I am not of the world. I do not pray that You should take them out of the world, but that You should keep them from the evil one (Satan)." (John 17:14-15)

    Notes ; "The world" is all those who do not believe and don't have faith. The world is those that who belittles the Bible and those that ridicule, scoff at, or despise Christians for practically nothing. That is nothing equal to the hate we endure by the 'world'.

    It will get much worse for Christians as the end days approach. By worse I mean that Christians will be put to death (beheaded as per scripture) simply for their love and belief in Jesus Christ as God. Some Christians will go meekly but if that day comes in my lifetime, I for one christian will have a ghastly surprise for any 'wanna be' solider for the dragon.

    Rev A
     
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    Uh, no. Its not Christians in general, its arrogant, evangelical intolerant Christians who think they should be able to put their foot on everyone's neck, or who think that Christians are the ONLY people who are "two-parent families", "their kids go to school", "aren't meth addicts", blah blah blah whatever you said.

    I will happily lambaste arrogant, evangelical intolerant Muslims too.

    But I will defend BOTH religion's jerkwads the right to exist in the USA.
     
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    :lol:

    I guarantee you Satan has nothing to do with MY criticism of any of you here.

    I respect and like Christians.

    Its just that none of the so-called "Christians" HERE seem to display ANYTHING of what Christ said a Christian OUGHT to do, or even seem to be interested in even trying to do so.

    :roll: Yeah, right. We can see the "Jesus" in THAT statement!
     
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    Isn't there some evangelical nutcase website where you can go preach this stuff?
     

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