About time Christians come out of the closet

Discussion in 'Gay & Lesbian Rights' started by Dutch, Jan 14, 2012.

  1. RevAnarchist

    RevAnarchist New Member Past Donor

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    The irony is your ignorance of scripture and how that makes you look every time you attempt to insult and criticize Christians.

    Luke 6:37 ESV /

    “Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven;

    Romans 14:1-23 ESV

    As for the one who is weak in faith, welcome him, but not to quarrel over opinions. One person believes he may eat anything, while the weak person eats only vegetables. Let not the one who eats despise the one who abstains, and let not the one who abstains pass judgment on the one who eats, for God has welcomed him. Who are you to pass judgment on the servant of another? It is before his own master that he stands or falls. And he will be upheld, for the Lord is able to make him stand. One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. ...

    Matthew 7:1-2 ESV /

    “Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you.

    1 Corinthians 4:1-21 ESV /

    This is how one should regard us, as servants of Christ and stewards of the mysteries of God. Moreover, it is required of stewards that they be found trustworthy. But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged by you or by any human court. In fact, I do not even judge myself. For I am not aware of anything against myself, but I am not thereby acquitted. It is the Lord who judges me. Therefore do not pronounce judgment before the time, before the Lord comes, who will bring to light the things now hidden in darkness and will disclose the purposes of the heart. Then each one will receive his commendation from God. ...

    John 8:7 ESV /

    And as they continued to ask him, he stood up and said to them, “Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her.”

    1 Corinthians 11:31 ESV

    But if we judged ourselves truly, we would not be judged.

    Matthew 7:1 ESV

    “Judge not, that you be not judged.

    Revelation 20:12 ESV

    And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done.

    So that is not I that is speaking about not being judgmental but scripture itself, which I have said many times, I have a scriptural validation/reason for saying everything.


    Rev A
     
  2. snakestretcher

    snakestretcher Banned

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    ...and that 'validation' is what makes religious crazies so dangerous because they have 'justification' and an excuse for every action-good and bad.
     
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    V8rider New Member

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    Sigh. Pearls before swine Rev.
     
  4. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    While I do agree with you on the first paragraph, the second one is rabbish. And that's why Christian organizations step in, supporting and promoting family values. And that's for they are "crucified" by the various interest groups. And since these groups, including LGBT traditionally been Democratic voters, Liberals are forced to attack Christians too, to support their voters.
     
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    Of course he is, just like he sees things in the sky that don't exist.
     
  6. Tahuyaman

    Tahuyaman Well-Known Member

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    I doubt it.
     
  7. Tahuyaman

    Tahuyaman Well-Known Member

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    Specifically, which tenants are you referring to?
     
  8. Karma Mechanic

    Karma Mechanic Well-Known Member

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    Statistics prove that at least 5 and up to 15 of those kids are gay or bisexual.
     
  9. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    No, it still provides the best results when it comes to providing and caring for children, whether it is 2% of the children or 98% of the children who benefit from it.
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Christian "Groups" are generally "Attacked" as a result of attacking those that react to it. This persecution complex is a self inflicted insult to their "God" and themselves due to the dogma they create and use to persecute others.

    Seriously...think about it for a second here:

    There are thousands of Gods out there.
    Each is believed by its followers to be the only one.
    There cannot be thousands of a One God.
    Then you have millions of individuals creating their own version as well.

    There cannot be a God unless there are a great many of them.
     
  11. Tahuyaman

    Tahuyaman Well-Known Member

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    Who's statistics? The angry militant homosexual crowds?
     
  12. stjames1_53

    stjames1_53 Banned

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    This is addressed to all sides of the argument, right?
     
  13. Strasser

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    If one listened to homosexual propaganda, one would think they made up half the country. but of course it's nonsense. Unless they're talking about the effects of gay parents, then it's indeed about '10%-20%' of children raised by people with mental disorders.

    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics...-no-idea-how-few-gay-people-there-are/257753/

    Americans Have No Idea How Few Gay People There Are
    Garance Franke-Ruta May 31 2012, 2:17 PM ET

    Surveys show a shockingly high fraction think a quarter of the country is gay or lesbian, when the reality is that it's probably less than 2 percent.

    One in ten. It's the name of the group that puts on the Reel Affirmations gay and lesbian film festival in Washington, D.C., each year. It's the percent popularized by the Kinsey Report as the size of the gay male population. And it's among the most common figures pointed to in popular culture as an estimate of how many people are gay or lesbian.

    But what percentage of the population is actually gay or lesbian? With the debate over same-sex marriage again an emerging fault line in American political life, the answer comes as a surprise: A lower number than you might think -- and a much, much, much lower one than most Americans believe.

    In surveys conducted in 2002 and 2011, pollsters at Gallup found that members of the American public massively overestimated how many people are gay or lesbian. In 2002, a quarter of those surveyed guessed upwards of a quarter of Americans were gay or lesbian (or "homosexual," the third option given). By 2011, that misperception had only grown, with more than a third of those surveyed now guessing that more than 25 percent of Americans are gay or lesbian. Women and young adults were most likely to provide high estimates, approximating that 30 percent of the population is gay. Overall, "U.S. adults, on average, estimate that 25 percent of Americans are gay or lesbian," Gallup found. Only 4 percent of all those surveyed in 2011 and about 8 percent of those surveyed in 2002 correctly guessed that fewer than 5 percent of Americans identify as gay or lesbian.
     
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    f_socialism New Member

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    I don't want to hear it either, but since nobody is forcing me to listen to them it really doesn't matter what they are saying, whatever that might be.

    Who exactly is forcing you to listen to them?
     
  15. Strasser

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    Some people just have poor reading skills, and actually believe the Establishment Clause really says 'freedom from religion', when it clearly doesn't.
     
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    No one should have the right to tell others how to live, nor should anyone try to impose on people something that goes against their core beliefs.
     
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    Osiris Faction Well-Known Member

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    Love thy neighbor, be compassionate, be kind, help others, be forgiving, be accepting, be tolerant, just to name a few.

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    Others having freedom doesn't force anything onto anyone.

    Two people being able to marrying doesn't force anything onto anyone.
     
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    Osiris Faction Well-Known Member

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    The first amendment clearly gives us the right to freedom of religion, as well as the freedom from religion.

    I have the same religious freedom you do. Which means that I can't push my religion onto you and you can't push your religion onto me.

    That is freedom of and from religion.
     
  19. Tahuyaman

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    So, having standards is considered bad? One must accept everything, even the intolerable in order to be a good Christian?
     
  20. Jack Links

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    Of course. The problem is lack of freedoms.
    Xtians call everything they disagree with as sin. Marxists call their opponents hate speech by bigots & xenaphobes, and use the law to punish their disagreement. Jews think everyone should worship them as the 'chosen ones.' And the muzzies? They just want to kill everyone who believes and lives different than them.
     
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    Osiris Faction Well-Known Member

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    Not at all. There's nothing at all wrong with having standards and living up to your own moral standards.

    There is however a large problem thinking that you have the right to deny others that same right. Or to take freedoms from others based on your idea of religion.

    It's also not right to lie about your neighbors, which many christian's or christian organizations have been caught doing, handing out propaganda trying to link gays to pedophilia, bestiality, drug use, promiscuity, and everything else under the sun. Its a long used fear mongering tactic, and you know what its failed.
     
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    Private Citizen Well-Known Member

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    Throughout history people have been controlled by criticism and public humiliation. The present is no different.
    You are right it is stupid. Stupid like high school cliques. Some people never grow up. They are the ones most hopelessly brainwashed.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    so your message is bash homosexuality, you kinda ruined the message of the video
     
  24. Tahuyaman

    Tahuyaman Well-Known Member

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    You guys sure can get defensive in a hurry.

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    Not "bash" it. Just identify it as abnormal and harmful.
     
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    Telling the truth isn't being defensive. Its telling the truth.
     

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