Alec Baldwin's 'Rust' movie assistant director admits to gun-safety mistakes, search warrant reveals

So you solved the mean tweets. Lol

 

Trump trying to work around that

edit : just realized the thread we are in, so will let it go with that

 

Well you stay on it, you super Fan you.

I expect daily updates. Daily! I wanna know what my fav president is up too.

K?

 

That is not common sense, that's bigoted posturing. Nothing more, nothing less. The picture is not even that of the set armorer of that movie, but because one of your minion said so, you believe it. Yep, you have no clue what common sense is, but carry on.

 

Clearly a move to protect a wealthy elitist since any average person would already have been charged.

 

It was a false equivelancy. It was not defective. It was desgined to fire nullets which is what happened.

A gun is a gun. Under the law he is responsible.

 

You are wrong

 

No it was not defective. A gun is a gun it was misued but worked as desgined. In any state the person pulling the trigger is responsible.

 

It was a gun. Doesnt matter what they were told. This is true in every state under the law.

 

You mean the same idiot who had two live ammo discharges on set just 5 days earlier?
Think I'll take the weapons safety officer who looks like a weapons safety officer.
Thanks

 

I think you will find criminal law has an element of mens rea, even in cases of negligence. So what someone is told can have an influence.

 

guess we will see, but I think it's you that is wrong

 

the gun was supposed to be safe, nothing but blanks, but someone replaced a blank with a real bullet

 

An influence yes I can see that.

But in the casse of deadly weapons it still comes down to the responsibilty of the person pulling the trigger regardless of anyone elses negligence.

 

True and also irrelevant under the law. When you pick up a gun, or are handed a gun, it does not matter what you are told about it's condition.. You are responsible if you fire it.

 

it's relevant, the person who put the real bullet there is responsible

it's like someone cutting the break lines of your rental car, you don't blame the driver cause they did not get under the hood and check everything out before leaving the parking lot, they have an expectation that the car was safe and not sabotaged

 

I was a RSO at a snooty gun club not too many years ago, and I worked in a 1911 shop building IPSC guns before a person could buy tuned 1911's off the shelf. Folks can call me any names and insults they want but one look at that girl and I am no where near her and any guns.

I would be unable to turn my back on her for 1-second.

 

They may bear some responsiblity as an accessory. But ultimately the person firing it is responsible no matyter what they were told.It is not like your scenario at all because would be someone sabotoging the car. The gun was not sabatoged.

 

disagree, if you hire an expert to make sure the gun is safe, it should be safe

now civilly you may still be to blame, but not criminally

the courts consider that a reasonable effort to make sure the gun is safe, thus not criminal

if someone replaced the blank with a real bullet, the prop was sabotaged, that would be the crime

 

Thde law does not read that way.

The law holds anyone firing a weapon to be responsible even if told it is safe. The person hired may also bear some of the responsiblity but the person pulling the trigger is still the one charged.

Any firearms instructor knows this. It is taught in every class about firearms nation wide for CCW and in police academies and anywhere else. The court does nto recognize such efforts to " make it safe " except maybe as an accessory to the crime.

 

we will see, I don't think your correct though, but we will see, in this case a person was hire to check the guns and make sure they were safe

if I hire an instructor to teach me to fire a gun, and he gives me a gun and tells me to fire it, that it is safe and not loaded with real bullets, that is on the instructor if he accidentally gave me the wrong gun and it was loaded with real bullets

 

Yes they were hired to do that and failed. It seems they were no expert however. In the end the law still holds the shooter responsible without exception and that is well known to anyone who has ever has any firearms instruction.

 

disagree, the instructor would be to blame, not the student

 

If someone cut the brake lines on a car you were driving you would realize something was wrong before you left the driveway, unless you were drunk.

Your argument is what is called a Red Herring.

 

Not under the law and all instructors know this.

The law is what it is and does not have to make sense.