Alleged High School Killer Spotted Smiling and Giggling in Jail Cell

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  1. gamewell45

    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well your response certainly is understandable as to why you took the position you have. Perhaps life time incarceration in his case is the way to go.
     
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    Okay that seems fair enough.
     
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    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    suppose you've never worked in your life? then what?
     
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    Everyone works. We just don't all consider the same things to be work.
     
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    I've always contended we have the real American Gladiators and put it on pay per view and the Government makes the book. It gives those on death row the ability to pay back society for their errant ways.
     
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    I would agree only if their welded in their cells and receive ONLY food and water. Then let nature take it's course.
     
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    I would have hoped that life time incarceration would have worked, but my brother had life plus 4 years and he is going to be unleashed upon society in a few months. A life in prison sentence has absolutely nothing to do with having someone spend their entire life in prison. Perhaps after conviction for his next murder he will serve out the rest of his life in a place where society will be safe.
     
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    I was just suggesting a fair resolution. It wouldn't be legal and it would never happen.
     
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    Well that's a relief.
     
  10. yiostheoy

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    It would break my heart to put down a pet. I would only do it if the pet was in constant pain.

    As far as murderers, if I was reasonably sure beyond any reasonable doubt that they were the killer I could easily shoot them myself however.
     
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    I think everyone who needs to watch can come to the prison to watch it there.

    Not on TV.
     
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    I have read FBI crime manuals extensively, first for my legal job in the military, and then afterwards for my armed guard job as well.

    What little I know about the criminal mind comes from those readings, and watching the news and crime documentaries on tv.

    I don't have any working theories about a bad child that comes out of a good family.
     
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    I had to have a vet come to the house to euthanize my dog two years ago. The dog was in constant pain and her back hips more or less gave out from old age to the point that she could not stand up or walk. The vet used two shots. The first was an instant acting anti-anxiety med. The 2nd stopped the heart beat. It was a dignified, painless, and quick death free from any fear or anxiety. For the dog that is. I felt plenty of pain, fear and anxiety, but I digress. This is not the sort of death a mass killer like Cruz or anyone else who shoots up a school deserves. This lethal injection mode of execution is IMHO is not a deterrent whatsoever. Shooting would be better -- but best of all would be Old Sparky.
     
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    He is one of the victims in all this. He needed help (and since he refused it, it should have been forced on him years ago, which would have stopped his gun ownership, and he could have gotten help). That said, he still needs to rot away his life in prison. At this point, he can't be fixed or made functional to live in society.
     
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    IMHO, the human thing would be the death penalty. Personally, life without parole would be the worst sentence you could ever give me. Much more cruel than the death penalty ever could be.
     
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    Depends on the reason for murder. Back in the good old days, most governors and prison wardens in Southern states had prisoners working in their houses as servants. The #1 choice was a murderer (or murderess) who had never been involved in any other trouble. Why? They weren't career criminals, but just somebody who messed up. They could be trusted not to steal and try to escape. I do agree that a first degree murderer should never be released to society, nor should a murderer who committed murder in the course of another crime.
     
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    I basically agree. I think that the worst possible thing would be to live the rest of your life in prison. Execution, even by hanging, rifle, electric chair or lethal injection is too easy.
     
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    That's just it. It's not those who want to wathc that it will help. It's those who don't. Those who enjoy it that much will be playing video games with more violence.
     
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    If he is a victim he is a victim of our "modern advanced society" where the nuclear family is rejected, and men and fathers are marginalize especially by the feminist and women's groups. The mother in this case had tried to stop her custody of them because she could not control them. There was no male figure in their lives to dominate them and instruct them on being a man. If we want to stop such violence that just doesn't manifest itself in school shootings by other crimes and breakdowns in our society THAT has to be addressed. The question is how do we do it.
     
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    You also forgot that most of the shooters took their own lives at the end of the shooting sprees.
     
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    Well, yeah, there's that too.
     
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    There is no solution to the violent video game craze.

    Psycho's will use these as training for their next mass shooting.

    The only thing that will stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.

    And good guy does not include the Florida chicken-sh!t deputy who was afraid to go into the school against the shooter.

    However when a man with a pistol meets a man with a rifle, the man with the pistol is a dead man. So the sheriff's deputy probably did the right thing by chickening out. The kid with the AR-15 probably would have killed the deputy.
     
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    I think we could consider prison guards as professionals.
     
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    In what way?
     
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    I see it differently. A 30 year veteran cop is going up against an untrained 19 year old lunatic.

    It isn't a showdown at the O.K. Corral where both stand facing each other. ANY type of interference/threat towards the shooter could cause him to change plans. The shooter won't know how many cops are in the building and if he has shots fired at him, or even hears shots close by, that could cause him to either flee or think "they're here" and off himself.

    I am in no way suggesting that warning shots or non-lethal shots are a good idea for self defense, but in a case like this when there are no other options doing something is a hell of a lot better than doing nothing!

    The noise, mayhem and adrenaline is going to mess with the shooters head as well (no one is thinking clearly in these situations, most everyone is operating at about 50% brain function especially those with no plan/training) , so any sort of threat could be perceived as much greater than it actually is.
     
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