Anyone who burns American flag should be jailed or lose citizenship

Well, I've heard Americans from both sides of the spectrum complain about offensive comments, but never to the point of lamenting free speech as a problem.

 

That's what you got from my post? Really?
OK

 

Nothing wrong with being 'socially unacceptable'. We are applauding people who refuse to be pc these days. We even put obnoxious pricks in our highest offices these days. You guys are all celebrating property rights. unless government proves that they stole somebody else's flag, its theirs, and none of the government's business or YOURS. they can pour their own urine on it in front of city hall and spread dog feces on the thing. They are just refusing to bend their personal choices to your politically correct whining. Own it. you guys decided socially unacceptable was just fine.

When they commit a violent act against somebody else, arrest them. A flag is patterned cloth. it represents nothing unless you make it represent something and that decision is on you, not them.

 

I don't have this in my sig: 'Donald Trump, 69.5 years old and I never heard one peep about him being a racist,'.
Now you've been informed.

I care less about what obama or hilary said in the past. But go ahead and show us all if you got something.
But you do. You have it in your sig line. You are now better informed. Sorry if that ruffled your feathers. Who'd a thunk being more informed would be bad?

 

People upset about that type of free speech also fall into the fool category and are at the lowest end of public discourse.
See 1st amendment.

 

I wasn't really concerned if you were okay with it.

I reacted the same way.

 

Do you have something of substance to say about the topic of the thread?

 

The anti Vietnam war protesters had a message, the flag burners have none.The fears you have of nukes, torture, denying free speech, etc, are all unwarranted. Do you have supportable and credible source for these fears of yours?

 

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In a sense, flag burners are already setting themselves up for "punishment" because the FBI and Homeland Security are probably gathering their names and making mugshots for their "Enemies of America" files so that they can swoop and round them up if ever serious civil disorder and riots/looting breaks out in the future.
Plus being a flag-mistreater gets them a bad reputation among their families, friends and neighbours,and it'll also be used against them by the prosecutor if they ever find themselves in any sort of legal dispute.
And of course their flag-mistreating also reflects badly on whatever political cause they're involved with..

 

And if you start to take care on all of the US flag burners outside the USA, you need to buy rest of Cuba, because Guantanamo will be to small then!

Honestly ... I read that in some states you could be jailed if you show US flag only reversed with blue field and stars down. if this is correct, I know 3 US Soldiers who did by bad joke in 1992 in German city of Wesel ...

The complete flag burning discussion is only one comedy more in moment. It is no good thing to burn any flag of any country ... as it is ridiculous to take out the judicial slash hammer and follow these people like being criminals!

 

People can get upset about any variety of things and most of us see it every day. But being upset about something is far from being a fool.

I'm completely aware of the 1st Amendment btw, and that burning of the flag is covered. Not being able to express yourself without burning a flag clearly points in the direction of those who would tend to be illiterate and/or unable to give their voice in any other reasonable and intelligent fashion.

These are the same people who feel that chanting juvenile and poorly thought out slogans make them feel important, as though they have a grasp on the issues. We know they are not very bright and probably come from a difficult background, and burning a flag in order to draw attention to themselves may be all they have going for them.

 

And is we have a closer look at these flag burning losers and their calls for a 'Revolution" of some sort yet these pathetic weaklings would be the first to have their asses handed to them.

They have no idea what 'revolution ' they wish to begin but they will certainly not be heading it up.

 

The right needs a dose of fake patriotism like this every now and again to feel special. Constitution > flag.

 

I haven't seen any news of the flag burners. So I couldn't say what kind of education they have. It is possible they are in college or graduated and haven't found work.
So, I doubt they are illiterate. And they probably could give a voice in a more reasonable fashion as well.
But flag burning garners headlines.

 

You've been misinformed. Flying the flag upside down is not illegal. It is usually used as a sign of distress.

 

"Fake" patriotism is exactly right. An actual patriot would defend free speech even when they find that speech detestable.

 

I should realize that it would be difficult to ascertain my meaning from your quoted comment plus my response. Yup.

Sic Judge Judy on the VFW.

That should be better for you.

 

Indeed. I would say especially when they find that speech detestable.

 

Ken is right. The flag is justifiably just a symbol.

Because of the respect government lasfully must show for unalienable rights, it must support any speech which is not widely shared of knowledge not alteady known that indicates a destruction of unalienable rights.

When citizens show other citizens that government is involved with the destruction of unalienable rights, that duty by government to share the knowledge multiplies tenfold so the citizens can unify to alter or abolish that government.

That is the only fully lawful federal OR state government America can have.

 

You compared a guide for retiring an old flag that is conducted with respect - with drug-addled vulgar rabble using burning to insult and spread hate. What.
You think that was deep?

 

Chances are the are poorly educated despite whatever high school or college they attended. This iis why they are burning a flag rather that writing a letter to the editor or participating in debate boards like these in order to have their opinions and philosophies challenged or defended.

Their actions are legal and defended by the police, the people they often denigrate, and will be left along to burn a flag in order to protest something or other. Who really knows what these rather simple minded folks want? But those people who feel that symbols of freedom are important, who have read some history and understand the connections and sacrifices hey symbolize, will simply ignore these vandalizers and vote against the left wing parties they represent.

If the education system is sharply improved, as Donald Trump has promised, you'll probably see fewer of these demonstrations in the future.

 

Burning a flag that you own is freedom of speech.
Burning a flag that belongs to someone else is criminal damage. Go straight to jail, simple.

 

Certainly. Burning a flag is any social behavior intended to draw attention to an otherwise sub-literate person who is unable to express their displeasure through more normal social channels. They are also known as bores.

There are many studies describing these sorts of people and their overall effect they have on any society. Burning flags isn't the only way they like to draw attention to themselves.

http://definitions.uslegal.com/a/anti-social-behavior

 

Exactly. A good time to pull this out:


America isn't easy. America is advanced citizenship. You've gotta want it bad, 'cause it's gonna put up a fight. It's gonna say, "You want free speech? Let's see you acknowledge a man whose words make your blood boil, who's standing center stage and advocating at the top of his lungs that which you would spend a lifetime opposing at the top of yours."

You want to claim this land as the land of the free?

Then the symbol of your country cannot just be a flag.

The symbol also has to be one of its citizens exercising his right to burn that flag in protest. Now show me that, defend that, celebrate that in your classrooms.

Then you can stand up and sing about the land of the free.

-The American President

 

Dude, we get it. You keep repeating the same comment, that flag burners have sub-par intelligence, ad nauseam. There's no need to repeat that same comment to every poster in this thread. Chances are that nobody in this thread has ever burned a flag themselves which is why nobody is taking the bait.

Also, the word you're looking for is "boor" not "bore."