Arctic Has Gained Hundreds Of Miles Of Ice The Last Three Years

its still much less than we had 10, 20, and 30 years ago.

 

the point is that the image you posted is irrelevant, arctic ice is melting

here's a good explanation of what's happening and has been for some time:

[video=youtube;3xuuEtcMal8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xuuEtcMal8[/video]

 

That's a lot of ice.

 

it's a lot less than it was

 

Says who, just because its against Dogma does not mean its wrong.

 

It is no use. People will just begin complaining about global cooling if we keep up these growing glacier and iceberg articles; there is no way out of the continuous complaints.

 

But Ronstar used Wikipedia.

 

Hahahahahahahaha ... the "National Snow and Ice Data Center" !!! Can't make this (*)(*)(*)(*) up ..............

What is the next graph from ? The "National Sky is Falling Data Center" ................ Hahahahahahahahahahahaha

This is about Antarctica, but "read 'em and weep"

 

competent scientists say it

 

Competent scientists dont disagree? You need to get a real religion. People like you ruin science.

 

you're talking about incompetent deniers like goddard

the looney, pants on fire guy, that keeps having to make retractions

 

hahaha!!!!

we're talking about the Arctic, bro.

Not Antarctica.

 

Your graph is only of January's, so we will see next January. It terms of global ice, the Arctic is a bit player. 90% of the world's ice is at the South Pole.

Now what would really be nice is if the damn ice age would finally end and beautiful forests returned to the Arctic. But,I doubt that is in the near-term future, so we will have to settle with being grateful for enough warming to prevent glacial advances.

 

The Arctic:


The Antarctic:


Total Ice:


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Thought this was all about 'global' climate change.

 

The Arctic is all water.

Antarctica is a land continent.

two very different animals.

 

the graph i posted earlier is only one reference among many

arctic ice has been on a decades long decline, despite your denials



"The IPCC AR5 report concluded with high confidence that sea ice continues to decrease in extent and there is robust evidence for the downward trend in Arctic summer sea ice extent since 1979."

http://www.ipcc.ch/meetings/session36/p36_doc3_approved_spm.pdf


"Sea ice in the Arctic has also decreased dramatically since the late 1970s, particularly in summer and autumn. Since the satellite record began in 1978, minimum Arctic sea ice extent (which occurs in early to mid-September) has decreased by more than 40%."

http://nca2014.globalchange.gov/report/our-changing-climate/melting-ice


"Arctic ice extent exhibits negative trends for all months, weakest in winter and strongest for September, the end of the melt season. The downward September trend has accelerated over the past decade. From 1979 through 2001, the linear trend in September ice extent over the satellite record stood at −7.0% decade−1. Including 2013, it is twice as large at −14.0% decade−1, and the seven lowest September extents have all occurred in the past 7 years [e.g., Stroeve et al., 2008, 2012; Comiso et al., 2008.

The decreased spatial extent of the ice cover has been accompanied by large reductions in ice thickness [e.g., Kwok et al., 2009] that are primarily explained by changes in the ocean's coverage of multiyear ice (MYI) [e.g., Maslanik et al., 2011]. In the mid-1980s, MYI accounted for 70% of total winter ice extent, whereas by the end of 2012, it had dropped to less than 20%. As seasonal ice has replaced MYI as the dominant ice type, the Arctic Ocean has become more vulnerable to a “kick” from natural climate variability, initiating feedback that have the potential to promote a rapid transition toward a seasonally ice-free Artic state [Holland et al., 2006]."

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/2013GL058951/full

 

The graphs are for sea ice.

 

my point went way over your head.

sorry about that

 

Since the the graphs are sea ice extent, you didn't really make a point.

 

This explains it succinctly. You can see the three-year increase the OP link is talking about, and see that it is but a short-term upward trend within a greater downward trend.

QED, eh.

 

Okay if you want to play equilivence games. Here is a horiable analysis of why CO2 cools the stratosphere form Dr. Gavin Schmidt current head of NASA's GISS was totally (*)(*)(*)(*)ing wrong on why the CO2 cools the stratosphere

http://www.realclimate.org/index.ph...stratosphere-cool-when-the-troposphere-warms/

The only part worth reading is this

Uh oh Gavin made a mistake last decade! And unlike Goddards mistake this is bad analysis made its way across the intent and is still believed by many ignorant warmmongers despite Gavin's retraction.

 

The Arctic and Antarctica are different.

much less land in the south.

much more water in the south.

different ocean currents.

different angles facing the sun.

 

We get it. Its only global when it supports your argument.

 

that's not equivalent, the subject here is arctic ice

these sources make it clear what's happening

despite all the science denying here

 

Yes different currents but sea ice is still volatile in both hemispheres. While Arctic sea ice decreased, Antarctic sea ice increased. The reasons are still not fully understood and that is one of the problems in climate science, much is still not known.