Are We Just Going to Lynch Mr. Zimmerman?

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    not sure what that link suppose to be showing, that he was calling neighbors.. IE potential witnesses?

    as for the alleged calls for help, did he attack the young boy trying to take him down and then the young man fought back, so he screamed for help? who knows, he never should of went against the orders of 911, he put himself in this situation, now he needs to prove it was self defense as he killed an unarmed boy that he approached with a loaded gun
     
  2. JIMV

    JIMV Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Because self defense is not an abandoned legal concept in Florida and we have no real evidence (not the lefts hysteric postings but legal evidence) as to the issue.
     
  3. JIMV

    JIMV Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The police chief is a professional law enforcement type while the city council, any city council, are pandering politicians...they go where the wind blows and the left is producing a hurricane of hot air.
     
  4. AshenLady

    AshenLady New Member Past Donor

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    Give the man a fair trial. Let the parents of the deceased decide the sentence.

    That's who really hurts the most; society is hurt and the boy's parents are scarred and maimed and hurt for the rest of their lives and to eternity, I would imagine, also.
     
  5. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have no issues with him presenting that as a defense to a jury, I would love him to take the stand and explain himself
     
  6. Daybreaker

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    I don't think I agree with this idea. The law should be impartial and rational, and I don't see how that's possible in that case.
     
  7. Colonel K

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    Even in Florida the self "defense" must be in reaction to an attack, and must be proportional to that attack. Just like in Britain.
     
  8. JIMV

    JIMV Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He may, but demanding arrest from thousands of miles away based on the hysteric reports from the politically correct is not the way to Judge a case, and that is what the left has done and is doing here...
     
  9. skeptic-f

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    There is now a rumor going around that an unnamed Sanford police source says that the business about Zimmerman being bloody and having a wet back was added to the police report on the incident after the fact, and that the same officer who altered the report stated he wished he hadn't mentioned any possibility of manslaughter charges (as he did in fact do in the report). Maybe this has something to do with why the Sanford police chief has fled his job.
     
  10. JIMV

    JIMV Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is true and the claim of self defense must be credible...here we have a situation where the 'white Hispanic' shot a black 'child'...It took to today to get to the point that the picture being floated of the black child is years old, that the fellow was 6'3" tall and in hoodies, could have weighed anything. We have no data on the shooter at all...If he was 5'5" we have a new story line to consider. He is alleged to have had head injuries and a bloody wound...was that true or simply media BS. Was the victim screaming for help or the shooter? No one knows...

    'Proportional' self defense is not a concept I would like to leave to internet zealots.

    I would rather have the police investigating than the internet's politically correct.
     
  11. Lil Mike

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    That doesn't seem to match the eyewitness account.
     
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    Let's drag him around DC by the throat tied to the back of a limousine, just so we can drop the topic of the death of 1 man-child and the man who killed him.
     
  13. Veni-Vidi-Feces

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    The title of the thread containing the term "lynch" shows just how out of touch some folks are.

    Zimmerman should stand trial, and if he lucks into OJ juries distant Florida kin and gets off, so be it. At least let this be heard in court, because no one should get shot by the local neighborhood watch for walking home, and looking around.
     
  14. Lil Mike

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    Love those rumors. I see an MSNBC anchor desk in your future.

    Here's a news story from the time the incident occurred.

    Man shot and killed in neighborhood altercation

    "The guy on the bottom, who had a red sweater on, was yelling to me, 'Help! Help!' and I told him to stop, and I was calling 911," said the witness, who asked to be identified only by his first name, John.
    John said he locked his patio door, ran upstairs and heard at least one gun shot.
    "And then, when I got upstairs and looked down, the guy who was on the top beating up the other guy, was the one laying in the grass, and I believe he was dead at that point."


    So unless the eyewitness account is fake too, the facts seem to confirm Zimmerman being bloody and having a wet back. They probably were going to charge him with Manslaughter though until this became a national issue. Now probably only Murder One will do to quiet the mob.
     
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    Your just dying to make an excuse for this guy. First the idiot chases the guy. If you were being chased by a guy with a gun and no authority wouldn't you at some point turn and defend yourself? This is obviously what Treyvon did, well within his rights and common sense. The police department protects itself from lawsuits because sometimes their actions are unjustified, why else would they do it? Every news outlet reported that Zimmerman was released with his gun and no tests because he cited the "Stand your ground" law, this includes FOX so it must be true (picture me rolling my eyes here, I find emoticons childish). The boy sat on a slab in the morgue for three days before the police had the moxie to check his phone and report to his family that he was dead. I don't know why I'm even debating you, this case is so open and shut the only question left is how long the police chief exists in his job and how big the lawsuit settlement will be. Oh yeah, and how long Zimmerman will be jailed for.
     
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    Oh I see. So if I confront you and then when you are beating my ass because I had the balls to confront you, I'm supposed to just let you do so when I have a gun?
     
  17. The Wyrd of Gawd

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    According to that logic a mugger could claim self-defense because his victim resisted the mugging.

    Imagine you're walking down the street and a guy is following you. You start to take precautions and then he's in your face making threatening actions and threats. Who's the victim, you or the guy who was stalking you?
     
  18. Veni-Vidi-Feces

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    Don't confuse them, their heads explode like in Scanners. They like their little Deadwood utopia.
     
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    What sort of morally ambiguous abyss did you crawl out of? The victim is the one who was attacked, physically. It's irrelevant whether the man was following him or threatening to call the cops or whatever.

    Outside of the ghetto, attacking someone who is all up in your face is called assault.
     
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    Actually, according to the 911 call Martin ran from Zimmerman which make Zimmerman the party committing the "assault."

    " An "assault" is an intentional, unlawful threat by word or act to do violence to the person of another, coupled with an apparent ability to do so, and doing some act which creates a well-founded fear in such other person that such violence is imminent."

    By behaving in a threatening manner toward Martin Zimmerman committed assault and by being ion possession of a firearm at the time that makes the assault a 3rd degree felony.

    "784.021 Aggravated assault.--

    (1) An "aggravated assault" is an assault:

    (a) With a deadly weapon without intent to kill; or

    (b) With an intent to commit a felony.

    (2) Whoever commits an aggravated assault shall be guilty of a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084."

    and under Florida's 10-20-Life Law because Zimmerman fired his weapon and killed Martin during the commission of this felony the mandatory sentence is life.
     
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    Politically driven I'm sure. If it was you or I, we would have been arrested, booked and awaiting trial behind bars....(that you can be sure of).
     
  24. Johnny-C

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    Of course. And in their treachery, they have trained a nationwide spotlight upon themselves.

    Serves them right.
     
  25. jhffmn

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    I was under the impression that they did, and then subsequently decided there was not enough evidence to support a homicide charge.
     

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