As I warned, Trump will start WW3. Now Republican leadership concurs.

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Guyzilla, Oct 9, 2017.

  1. Mac-7

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    Does mattis always speak for you?

    His is just one man's opinion
     
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    A minor factor in the big picture
     
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    The opinion of the Secretary of Defense when it comes to military affairs is a pretty strong one, don’t you think?

    He has access to the entire gamut of US and allied intelligence agencies to back up his opinion. You have what? Hatred for Obama?
     
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    It was obama's deal and he gave away the store to appease the Iranians who had a good friend whispering - or shouting - in his ear

    Namely Valerie Jarrid

    If I recall Iran walked away with sanctions lifted and $150 billion dollars to spend
     
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    I do think his opinion is iimportant

    Over time I will probably agree with mattis on more issues than you will

    But not this time
     
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    You don’t think the opinion of the Secretary of Defense is important regarding military matters?
     
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    It wasn't "Obama's deal". There were 5 other nations involved in the deal. It is absurd nonsense to claim that this was Obama's deal.

    What part of "Sanctions are next to useless" if the other nations do not agree - Do you not understand ?

    The 150 Billion was Iran's money. If the reason for freezing these assets was because due to Iran's nuke program, it is complete hypocrisy and bad faith to claim to want to keep those assets frozen as part of the Iran nuke deal.
     
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    So, Iran and North Korea will unilaterally capitulate? RIGHT. We just lay down the results of their not carrying OUR water, and they will simply give up? Give us undying respect and loyalty? RIGHT.
     
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    You are really excited about it aren't you?
     
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    Well---------------Maxine Waters says that if NK nukes Midway, Trump will probably get us into a war.
     
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    Nonsense

    It was the deal obama wanted and the other nations signed off on

    Yes it was Iran's money and as long as we held it we had leverage over them

    But obama gave that way
     
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    Both Russia and China were wanting an end to the sanctions as were our European Allies. What on earth are you talking about.

    There is a serious backlash going on in Europe over Trump wanting to back out of the deal.

    You are not making sense.
     
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    No "rebukes" the never-Trump Republicans make are "extraordinary." They've been doing it all along. President Trump is the only thing standing between us and WW3. I think it won't happen on his watch.
     
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    You mean our bosom buddies russia and china wanted to end the sanctions?

    Well thats impressive

    Those two countries are just as much our enemy as the iranians are

    But I don't doubt that the shortsighted euro's are for it also

    They are almost overrun by muslims now and it may be only a matter of time before the Euro Caliphate emerges
     
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    France and Germany also wanted the sanctions ended. France and Germany are speaking out loudly against Trumps desire to back out of the deal.

    There is also a serious backlash in both Germany and France against Muslims.

    You are making up nonsense. Even if it was just Russia and China .. without those nations on board there is no deal ... Period. End of Discussion.

    This was not "Obama's deal". We do not know what happened behind closed doors but, in all likelihood it was Obama that was most against the deal.

    You are in denial which is why you are avoiding discussing the ramifications of the Obama backing out of the talks ... perhaps taking Britain with him as they are joined at the hip.

    You want to deny reality because reality conflicts with the false narrative you bought into. What you should be doing is getting rid of the false narrative.
     
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    Our enemies such as russia and china have nothing to lose by adding another nuclear armed enemy to their camp

    Of course they were for the deal

    Only people who hate America could see anything good about the Iran nuclear deal

    And I am beginning to think germany and france should be added to that list
     
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    As is the entire old white christianist party
     
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    If Russia and China want another member to the nuclear club then why did they agree with sanctions ?

    The idea that Germany and France want another member to the nuclear club is even more mind bendingly nonsensical.

    Your diatribe just keeps getting more irrational.
     
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    Russia and china play 3D chess so their motivations for agreeing to sanctions years ago are not clear to me now

    But I think france and germany are just eager to make some money by getting a piece of the billions obama turned over to the iranians

    And they don't care what happens 10 years from now
     
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    Haven't you yet learned not to read the New York Times? They report as they editorialize on the spot.

    So, since when have you become a fan of Sen. Corker?

    We all have opinions. Corker told his to at least this left wing media outlet.
     
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    We are not at war with any new enemies. WW 3 needs a lot more enemies to join our enemy. As I see this, at the moment we have one major enemy. North Korea. Trump needs to solve what Obama could not solve.
     
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    The only thing that is crystal clear is your desire to maintain the false narrative you have ingested at the expense of rational thought and reality.

    It was not Russia and China that let the nuclear genie out of the bottle. South Africa, Israel, Pakistan, North Korea, Iraq,Iran. It was the US/Nato (and France in particular) that is responsible.
     
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    Iran having nuclear weapons in 9 years is a reality I could do without

    I had forgotten about South Africa

    But they do not have nukes now
     
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    Say, do you mind proving this?
     

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