Bernie Sanders attacks Christian nominee of Trump

He was giving Vought a religious test, and it's forbidden by the constitution.

 

hahaha... Nice question...

 

There is a difference between having a belief and forcing that belief on others (especially when it is through physical violence - Law).

It is not a religious test to try to determine if someone will try to force their religious beliefs on others through law.

 

The mental gymnastics and stat massaging in that article is completely ridiculous. If you have to put like 6 qualifiers on your stats, you are just spinning it like a top. There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.

 

They'd better not read Ali Dashti's 23 Years, either. The dudes who wrote the Qur'an could have used a copy of Logic for Dummies before they sat down and started scribbling...

 

Point me to any example of Muslim politicians ever publicly promoting that non-Muslims are condemned to hell. The scriptures are irrelevant, what people proclaim out of their own mouths is relevant. If Vought was applying for a job at a gas station we wouldn't even be having this conversation but he's seeking an office that is expected to uphold the US Constitution and he's failing to suggest that he's capable of doing so.

 

Vought ACTED on his religious beliefs by FIRING someone for wearing a hijab!

 

Bernie made no statements of condemning all Christians.

 

Yes, and that is wrong, as I have stated. However, grilling him over his religious beliefs, is crossing the line. It's one thing to be critical of his actions. It's another to be critical of his religious beliefs. It's almost like the founding fathers sorted this all out when they wrote the document that forbids what Sanders did....

 

No he wasn't...

 

ANYTHING Sanders is against I am for. The man is an opportunistic twit. It will be interesting to see if he gives away two of his three 3 houses and 91% of the $1,000,000 income he recorded in 2106 or will he keep it for his wife's legal defense fund.

 

Then we disagree big time.

I would rather have them here, so we can debate them, understand how they think and see where they are going. I am for an open forum.

Now that being said, I'm all for rethorically bust their arse-headed opinions if need be, in no uncertain terms. Freedom of expression goes both ways and it's fine like that.

I strongly oppose censure.

 

I don't need to engage in whataboutism. It's always a weak point. Nobody ever won an argument using whataboutism.

Sanders could have stuck to the man's actions for his reason to deny him the post. But, he went farther, and began grilling him over his completely main stream Christian beliefs. The law is clear; there can be no religious test put forth to obtain a job in the government. All Sanders had to say, was, "Hey this jerk fired a due for wearing a hijab". But, he didn't stop there. He wanted to get in to the mans statements of religious expression. That is immoral, wrong, and illegal.

 

Chris Hedges

 

That's easier said than done because of ballot access rules limiting candidates in Federal elections.

 

Yeah you are right but the way he treated this Christian leads me to believe he would do the same for any Christian running in politics.

 

Seems that's indeed descriptive about the depth of many people's political stance - Systematic opposition as a substitute for actual ideology.

 

Again, "Christians" aren't being considered for this federal public office, Vought is. His religion is irrelevant. No religious test. His demonstrated personal bigotry against groups of people he's applying to represent is absolutely relevant, just as Betsy DeVos's demonstrated bigotry toward public education was absolutely pertinent. Ah, but she's a religious billionaire with zero public education credentials - she'll do just fine, amiright.

 

Well said. Bernie was in the wrong and nobody deserves to be questioned or attacked for just being a Christian. If Bernie has a problem with Christians he should not let it get in the way of doing his job professionally. He needs to step out of politics and retire already.

 

Bernie was giving Vought the opportunity to explain that he would not use his federal office to impose his religious beliefs.

Vought failed to explain how he would not do so.

Instead Vought doubled down by insisting that he would continue to use his beliefs as a means of imposing his religious beliefs on a secular nation.

 

I think you are correct. Anyone who proposes "everything free" is very quiclky figured out as being somewhat off the wall even by the leftest of lefties.

 

No matter how Vought treated that Muslim, amiright.

 

Bernie took it to far and continued to grill the guy on his Christian beliefs. Regardless of what the guy did Bernie should not have acted in a rude and unprofessional way. Bernie was in the wrong.

 

I think it's better for them to feel "little foolish" than to feel like a "big time moron"

Source: Holy Qur'an !

 

Yes, yes, people are free to say anything the want, but we also have that 5th Amendment right to avoid self incrimination and Vought waved his 5th Amendment right the second he publicly informed people he was a bigot.