Biden's time to shine

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  1. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Nah, not even that mass murdering mental patient is dumb enough to believe that.
     
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  2. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Only if you believe that right-wingers have ANY perception whatsoever of "the future". But right-winger foresight of "the future" ... at most only covers about 2 weeks.

    https://www.reuters.com/business/en...halts-nord-stream-2-certification-2022-02-22/

    So, once again, we have shown that foretelling "the future" is yet another thing Trump loyalists are really really lousy at.
     
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    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    Biden is following the EU nations' lead, and that is probably a good thing.

    Biden has not blundered yet. Be happy! ;-)
     
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    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And then there's this Instant Classic-Lesson in Real Leadership

    ZELENSKYY AMMO.jpg

    Volodymyr "I Need Ammo" Zelenskyy runs towards the sound of gunfire.

    Joe "Five Draft Deferments" Biden runs away from it.
     
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  5. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Z has shown more courage in a single hour than Trump or any of his supporters will ever show in a lifetime. But keep pretending.
     
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    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    If Biden or other leaders do not get enough effective weapons systems into Ukraine in time to stop the Russian occupation the West will go very dark very fast.
     
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    And this is why we don't need the left on foreign policy. Afghanistan was the perfect example.
    Where was all this leftist foresight to not evacuate Kabul until the Taliban seized Kabul leaving Americans behind?
    Where was all this leftist foresight to evacuate our air support before evacuating the embassy?
    Where was all this leftist foresight when Biden said he wouldn't leave Kabul until every American was accounted for, then ordered by the Taliban to leave, which Biden obeyed?
    Where was all this leftist foresight when Biden murdered a family of 10 thinking they were terrorist?
    Where was all this leftist foresight when Biden refused to send in troops to get our people out while Germany, Britain, and France went in and got their people out?
    Where was all this leftist foresight lifting Trumps NS2 sanctions just to reapply them?
    Where was all this leftist foresight refusing weapons to Ukraine empowering Russia to invade?
    Where was all this leftist foresight only sanctioning two banks where all of Europe had to step in because Biden was so weak?

    I think we have all seen enough of leftist foresight.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You said "Shine". Can you describe this "shine"
     
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    America is back! It has suddenly recovered its abdicated role of leadership in the community of democratic nations.

    There is poetic justice in Zelinskyy, having resisted pressure to contrive fake criminal charges against Biden by the withholding of military aid to Ukraine, is now expressing gratitude for the support Biden is now providing, as he coordinates an international response to the savage attack on Ukraine by the "savvy genius."


    WASHINGTON (AP) β€” President Joe Biden and U.S. allies in a matter of days weaponized the global economy against Russia for invading Ukraine, and the resulting destruction has been devastatingly fast.
    The sanctions almost instantly put Russian President Vladimir Putin on the defensive against skyrocketing inflation. Russia's central bank, unable to tap foreign reserves, tried to use what resources it had to slow the ruble's steep decline.
    It goes unchallenged among economists that Russia's $1.5 trillion economy, previously about 7% the size of the U.S. economy, will shrivel further in ways that could be unprecedented for a nuclear power.
    There is a push for even greater financial penalties. Ukrainian parliament member Oleksandra Ustinova met with U.S. senators on Tuesday to advocate for more sanctions immediately if Ukraine is to hold off Russian attacks.
    "It works," Ustinova said of the sanctions while sitting in the offices of Pennsylvania Sen. Pat Toomey. β€œIn Ukraine, people are standing in line to get guns. In Russia, people are standing at the ATM machines because they understand they might not be able to get this money in two days, or, it will be like twice as less.”

    US, allies weaponizing sanctions to curb Russian aggression

    The hawkish John Bolton, Trump's National Security Adviser, who was as appalled as John Kelly, Trump's White House Chief of Staff, came to know Field Marshall Bone Spurs well:
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    John Bolton says Trump wouldn't have stood in Putin's way if a
    Russian invasion of Ukraine had happened during his term


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    Obviously, Putin had not conspired to help Trump in the 2016 presidential election on a whim.
    He's just not the whimsical type.​
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Ten minutes ago you believed that Europe could never shed dependency on the Nord Stream 2 Pipeline. And now that this has been debunked, you ask for a similar lesson about how Trump surrendered to the Taliban?

    My advice: don't overdo it. One right-wingnut media talking point rebutted per day. Don't risk factual information overload.
     
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    You wouldn't consider these to be blunders. I might beg to differ
     
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    Show me.
     
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    You haven't debunked anything but your imagination. You didn't even know why the NS2 was sanctioned or that Biden had reversed that sanction then reapplied it.
    That would be the same imagination you used to think Trump surrendered to anyone. I doubt you even know what that word means.
    But it doesn't take any imagination to know the failures and incompetency of Biden.
    Especially when his own leftist media makes the same claims.

    CNN
    Joe Biden is facing a crisis of competence

    CNN
    A grim portrait of Biden's unhappy America

    CNN
    Biden's botched Afghan exit is a disaster at home and abroad

    Maybe you should wake up to your own media


     
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    Probably more courage than any world leader since Haile Selassie.

    Given that at least about half of the American voting public supports Trump it is certain that many of them, like many Democrats, have had to show more courage in any given year than any national leader has ever shown in the history of the world.

    Life will always be much harder for ordinary human beings than for the elites. Another reason why Z's exceptional courage impresses virtually all of us, probably even most of the Russians who support Putin.
     
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    Oh, yes, Biden's blunders have led directly to this crisis, but since the start of the invasion he hasn't made a major blunder. For instance, he has resisted pressure to use the US military directly against Russia.

    For instance, many RP/DP politicians are demanding that he declare and enforce a no fly zone over Ukraine.
     
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    Nah, I didn't misunderstand. You're saying the same thing a lot of democrats do. I'm proud to pay more because I can afford to. Don't walk away from your convictions, it's demeaning to yourself... And doubling down by insisting that folks can afford it because of how well the economy is running is perhaps one of the stupidest things I've ever heard anyone suggest about the corrosive effects of run away inflation. It's laughable.

    I don't have to compare this to anything. Biden is an abject failure. his policy, his leadership, the whole bundle that is sniffer Joe is exactly what so many of us tried to warn the country about, and now folks are actually dying because of his ineptitude. And all you have is "orange man bad" as if that somehow is effective rhetoric. News flash, the world is astounded by just how feeble, and feckless Joe was, and how ridiculous he looked last night unable to even differentiate between the Ukrainian resistance and the "hearts of Iranians". That isn't a speech impediment or a stutter, that's mental decline and the inability to remained focused. As for what is sickening, think on this. You're torturing an octaginarian on public TV. And you're clapping for it all the while demanding that the public applaud his most beautiful clothing.
     
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    No they are doing that because we are the super power and have been for decades. Biden has nothing to do with that

    You guys become soooo desperate when a democratic President does something right. You shouldn't worry that much. Biden will eventually screw up something. Maybe he'll slip off his chair. Or mispronounce the last name of the President of Sri Lanka... or something that will again enable you to merrily say "See? He's almost as dumb as Trump!"[/QUOTE]
     
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    Which part were you completely unaware of until now? Be specific.
     
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    Resisted? He opened the door for Russia's invasion but at least he hasn't declared war on Russia?
    Thats the new line of success?
    Given Bidens history, that probably about right.
     
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    Biden is "leading" from behind.

    Obama taught him well. :roll:
     
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    I noticed that you didn't go back to calling Biden's leadership competent. Telling. What you really have to explain for us is why, even if it was just an oversight by Biden that his active push to increase the price of energy, Biden's administration didn't foresee this as a possible outcome. There are historic precedents for Russias behavior when the oil markets flooded their coffers. It happened in 2008 in Georgia, it happened again in 2014 in the Crimea and then the Ukraine proper. There is no "tortured logic" in the identification of these facts as a behavioral model of the Russian dictator. Obama promised the Russians he'd be more "flexible", and all the while maintained a reticence to support or help the Ukrainian people while president. Biden was right there, as he famously brags. And, until oil prices mounted their surge, Russia didn't have the expendable cash on hand to invade anyone, right up to the point where Biden then assaults the US energy markets restricting US output, restricting transportation projects, and unsanctioning nordstream2. If you think that wasn't purposeful, we can disagree, but you cannot ignore that it happened. You cannot ignore that suddenly Russia made a move as soon as Biden suggested that a "small incursion" was probably ok with him.

    On the "one more thing", don't you think this is pretty significant? You said you felt compelled to call his handling competent. And when pressed, you cannot other than ad hominem any other defense of your assertion. So you ding Obama, and indirectly Biden, for the 2014 expeditions, but now, you rush to Joe's defenses saying that this was his only path? Seriously?

    I can think of lots of things that Biden does that makes his presidency useless to the American people. From filling court vacancies with activists who won't constrain their judicial temperament by precedent to how Joe is attacking about the only folks who made a real difference in employment and economic growth. Lots of things I assume you will agree aren't in the best interests of the nation given your last para. But FFS, starting WWIII isn't the "competent" thing to do. Your analogy is craftiness for sure. Perhaps a better example would be, you like crack, you buy crack, and the crack dealer buys guns and then shoots up their disadvantaged neighborhood because not only is your dealer a dealer, he's also a bully. Joe knows we, and lots of other nations, including china buy from Putin. We all know he's a bully. And yet it didn't occur to Joe, even after TWO examples of how we would spend his fortune from the past on aggressive land grabbing from weaker countries, that the consequences of his ridiculous green BS fantasy was going to expose the world to a potential nuclear war.

    But for you, that's your definition of competence. I call it at best seditious. And at worst, traitorous. And for those who are now dying because of your clapping, aren't you also part of that problem?
     
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    IMO, Biden is the worst DP President since Carter, but most of the others are not much better. It could be a lot worse.

    Biden stood up and regurgitated all his partisan talking points for over and hour.
    Every President does about the same thing -- easier for them than for a 79 year old Joe Biden.

    IMO, he is not suffering from dementia.
     
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    So why is Biden hanging him out to dry and continuing to pay for Putins military expedition?
     
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    It's sad when even your most ardent cheerleaders turn on you if only to make a quick bucket to keep their lights on....
     
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