Blood is on Obama/Democrat Hands - Fast and Furious

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  1. Consmike

    Consmike New Member Past Donor

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    hmmm really?

    http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...ed-fast-furious-make-case-gun-regulation.html

     
  2. Naruto

    Naruto Well-Known Member

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    Actually Mike Vanderboegh is very instrumental in getting F&F broke. He set up the meeting with Senator Grassly and ATF whisleblowers.

    Not a flattering piece but if gives you some insight on how Mike Vanderboegh got everything started and helped get F&F out in the open.

    Meet the Former Militiaman Behind the Fast and Furious Scandal

    On December 8, when Eric Holder testified before the House Judiciary Committee about Operation Fast and Furious, the bungled federal attempt to combat gun smuggling to Mexico, his testimony was met with frequent snickers and occasional hostility. The source wasn't Republican committee members, but rather a blogger seated at the press table. Wearing a homemade press pass in a National Rifle Association badge-holder, Mike Vanderboegh had arrived at the hearing toting an Army-issue laptop case that appeared capable of withstanding a roadside bomb.

    A large, ruddy fellow with white hair and a mischievous smile, he had played a key role in turning Fast and Furious into a national scandal. From his home in Pinson, Alabama, Vanderboegh writes a little-known, far-right blog called Sipsey Street Irregulars. Last December, in a post titled, "Border Patrol agent killed with ATF-smuggled AR? Some ATF agents seem to think so," he reported on rumors flying around law enforcement circles about the death of Border Patrol agent Brian Terry. Two weeks earlier, Terry and his team had been tracking a Mexican "rip crew"—who specialize in robbing drug smugglers—in Nogales, Arizona. Shots were fired and Terry was hit in the back. He died the next day.

    Vanderboegh reported that agents with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives believed that the gun that killed Terry had been part of an anti-gun smuggling operation—later known publicly as Operation Fast and Furious. Vanderboegh suggested that ATF agents had encouraged "snitches" to purchase hundreds of guns in the US and smuggle them into Mexico to track the weapons to high-level drug kingpins. He quoted a website set up by anonymous disgruntled ATF agents: It "appears that ATF may be one of the largest suppliers of assault rifles to the Mexican cartels!" one wrote.

    Using what he calls the "desert telegraph" (an anonymous email system) to communicate with whistleblowers, Vanderboegh says he helped arrange for ATF agents to talk to the staff of Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.), who was then chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, which oversees the Department of Justice. Later, Vanderboegh connected the whistleblowers with the staff of Sen. Charles Grassley (R-Iowa), who took over as the committee's chair in January.

    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/12/fast-and-furious-scandal-mike-vanderboegh
     
  3. exotix

    exotix New Member Past Donor

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    You mean all you right-wingers never heard Issa spout-off how Fast & Furious was a great conspiracy to take away your guns ?

    (*)(*)(*)(*) ... LOL.
     
  4. Mac-7

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    Libs laugh at the idea of conspiracies but CBS News is reporting just that.

    Holder and his flunkies at the BATF were smuggling guns to the Mexican mafia and then were going to use the deaths caused by those guns in push for more gun control.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31727_16...ag=re1.channel
     
  5. Consmike

    Consmike New Member Past Donor

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    No but we did hear it from CBS news...
     
  6. exotix

    exotix New Member Past Donor

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    I've always been more or less impressed with the neo-partys' hatred for themselves because the amount of work they have to do to accomplish nothing except high-treason to finally see their high-treason come to fruition with the Holder contempt ... because nobody is high-fiving them nor rejoicing ...

    Most bizzare.
     
  7. Consmike

    Consmike New Member Past Donor

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    I would assume you believe than that the entire scooter libby trial was bs right?
     
  8. exotix

    exotix New Member Past Donor

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    It's estimated that just over 1 Million people died in a distant land (except 9/11) because of Bush & Cheney & Libby ... but you'll embark on a high-treason witch hunt because a border agent died defending our border ...

    I'm reminded of a serial killer who found God in prison and found repentance by believing that God holds no difference if you kill someone or steal a cracker ...

    Wake Up America.
     
  9. OverDrive

    OverDrive Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, if one remembers the movie "6 Days/7 Nights," when Ann Heche asked Harrison Ford, being a man, "cant you do all the survival stuff," he replied "No, but I can do this..<finger-in-mouth-pop>"
     
  10. JIMV

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    Sometimes if it quacks like a duck, waddles like a duck and lays eggs like a duck, its a duck....In this case it smells like a gun grabbing scheme, looks like a gun grabbing scheme and documents are appearing that note the political gun grabbing possibilities...then it WAS a gun grabbing scheme...That it failed was not for the Administrations lack of trying.

    Issa simply notes the obvious.
     
  11. Naruto

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    Aren't we suppose to connect the dots after 911, so now it's bad to connect the dots according to libs when it comes to F&F.
     
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    Thees are not dots they want connected as connecting them leads right to the justice dept and perhaps further..

    Could the administration survive a scandal where folk died simply in order to further a gun control political agenda?
     
  13. James Cessna

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    Obama promises openness and transparency during his tenure as President



    [video=youtube;NTRy0uTuv0M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTRy0uTuv0M&feature=related[/video]
     
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    That is on Obama and has nothing to do with Bush
     
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    sorry, I can't even watch that women speak, lol

    like finger nails on a chalk board


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  16. JIMV

    JIMV Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I feel the same about the astounding stupid Nancy Pelosi...I can understand an idiot getting elected to Congress. After all, we have a 240 year history of that BUT, as speaker! Yea Gods!!
     
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    Please don't forget Jamie Zapata.
     
  18. HB Surfer

    HB Surfer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thank you... the media had not covered Jamie Zapata's murder at all. His family is owed honest answers too.
     
  19. exotix

    exotix New Member Past Donor

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    That's why Faux likes her ... or maybe they're stuck with her ... she's like the catfish you catch down at the fishing hole and you can't get your hook, line and sinker back out of that mouth ....

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  20. Goldwater

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    Yes it is HB.

    It's pure GOP electioneering, and a "so called" conservative media circus

    Untill of course, we actually prove what what Holder, or Obama, did wrong. And if they are found guilty...I'll be right there with you in asking for their heads.

    You've got the hangman and the mortician arranged before the trial begins, and nothing will happen anyway before the election.

    And the last bad deal for righties...it won't get any traction with swing voters unless something is proven. At the very worst...the whole thing could be Obama's "monica lewinsky" event in his second term
     
  21. HB Surfer

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    Then why the Executive Privilege? Why the lies by Holder to Congress causing him to retract twice now and once last week?

    If Obama and Holder knew nothing and there is nothing to hide... why the Executive Privilege? This is coming out, because you cannot claim EP without a stated reason. The courts are going to trash Obama and Holder and then Congress gets the documents that will sink the liar AG and his boss for trying to cover for him... Nixon style.
     
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    Keep your comments about the topic, and don't aim them at baiting and insulting other members.

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  23. OverDrive

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    The Democrats' lament and argument on this issue is so weak, and 'they' are indeed the true partisans ---BTW, what's happening with the 30+ bills in the Senate that were passed by the House?! Prince Harry of the Obama monarchy wont bring them up fearing that they will pass, and then King Obama cant claim a do-nothing Republican House for all 'His' problems and creating division via 'His' poor leadership...!
     
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    That is racist.
     
  25. OverDrive

    OverDrive Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He never did answer my previous post concerning the same, whether he stills wears a V-J pin 50 yrs later on his lapel...
     

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