"Blowback Theory" enthusiasts. What Actions did the USA commit before 9/11/01?

Don't let that stop you mate.

 

http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/R41677.pdf

 

America has a history of providing a safe haven for some deeply unpleasant individuals. The School of the Americas has produced some of Latin America's nastiest bastards-mass murderers, torturers etc., and yet some are living quite openly in the USA. Florida is a favourite of theirs. Names on request.

 

I dont think ones lifetime is an artificial boundry.

 

Notice you never hear of Latino terrorism against the US.

 

No, because America installs the bastards in the first place. Why would they fight against somewhere which protects them? Wait...did you never hear of Orlando Letelier and his assassination in Washington DC? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orlando_Letelier

 

Bill Clinton and Wesley Clark bombed the muslim men we were supposed to protect in kosovo.

Clark was in charge of the air force at the time.

Satelites flew over the battle field and took pictures and location information of every one of Slobodan Milošević's tanks.

When the satelite passed, Slobodan Milošević moved all his tanks under cover and parked truck loads of muslim men in the very places where tanks used to be.....

The next morning Wesley Clark sent in the bombers, and blasted all the people we were supposed to be protecting.

Thats why only women and children could be found escaping the country.

 

I must admit when you bombed the chinese embassy by mistake during all that due to 'old maps' I nearly peed my pants with laughter, sometimes real life can be funnier than any fiction.

 

Well, I see you delare "NO" but not sure what it is you disagree with.

 

By all means give us names

 

I wouldn't be surprised if that happened but do you have a link to an article about it?

 

I got a book from a communist friend of mine; called the shock doctrine, the rise of disaster capitalism. really long and repetitive stuff, and right now I'm reading about how the US via CIA funded dictators in latin america, and trained torture squads. And to being some relevance to what I'm quoting; how many of the dictators' economists were educated in american schools, like the chigaco school. Can't remember the names, but they're in the book, I can go and look it up.

 

So what? Sometimes in brutal countries you need Pro-Capitalist Death Squads to fight against Communist Death Squads. Everyone had death squads. That was how Communism was spread. Revolution and death squads. So you hire your own death squads.

What do you think the Libyan Militia we used to "provide security" are? Death squads.

 

And yet you still failed.

 

Face it SiliconMagician, you've got zero ground to stand on. Hence why you didn't respond to my first post in this thread.

 

The problem with this is theory that Iraq was not going to invade Saudi Arabia after it invaded Kuwait.

There was a serious problem with the fact that the US military, comprised of non-Muslims, remained in Saudi Arabia after accomplishing the goals of UN Security Council resolutions to remove Iraq from Kuwait to intervene in the sovereign affairs of Iraq because Saudi Arabia is considered to the the "Holy Land" for many Muslims. While this merely annoyed the vast majority of Muslims there was the very small extremist group of fundamentalist Muslims that found this highly offensive to their religion.

Additionally the hypocracy of the Unites States was clearly evident to this small group of extremist Muslims. In only a matter of a few months the US had reacted militarily to the military occupation of Kuwait by Iraq but for decades the US had blocked any efforts to force Israel to withdraw from the territories it had occupied in 1967 in violation of UNSC 242 and was settling in violation of the Geneva Conventions. The hypocracy of US foreign policy was not ignored by this very small group of Islamic extremists.

We should point out that "Blowback" does not represent a justification for terrorism but instead a rationalization by the extremists that resort to terrorism. Terrorism is a tactic used against a preceived act of tyranny by government and the US has been perceived as being tyrannical in it's actions for decades. War, whether carried out with conventional military forces or paramilitary forces, and whether directly or by proxy, is a tyrannical act and the US has been engaged in unending war since WW II. Support for tyrannical regimes, such as the Royal Families in Kuwait and Saudi Arabia, also creates guilt by association. US foreign policy of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" regardless of how tyrannical such regimes might be is justifiably condemned.

The rationalizations for the terrorist attacks on the United States by the handful of Islamic extremists in al Qaeda was actually detailed by Osama bin Ladin in his statements. We have the Islamaphobics that want to condemn all Muslims for the actions an insignificant percentage of Islamic extremists but we must realize this is like condemning all Christians for the insignificant number of Christian fundamentalists that have resorted to terrorism in their actions. They choose to remain uninformed because it fits with their prejudice and knowledge is the enemy of prejudice. I would suggest reading the published transcripts from Osama bin Ladin where he outlines the US actions which he used to rationalize terrorist attacks against the United States.

 

Ok; Jose Guillermo Garcia, head of El Salvador's death squads in the 1980s. Living in Florida since the 1990s
Carlos Eugenio Vides Casanova, Garcia's successor, and head of the much feared National Guard, guilty of cover-ups of torture and the murder of three American nuns, also resident in Florida.
Alvaro Saravia, resident in both Florida and California, worked closely with Roberto d'Aubuisson who ordered the assassination of Archbishop Oscar Romero.
Emmanuel Constant, leading Haitian death squad head, former head of FRAPH, has lived openly in New York since 1995.
Armando Fernandez Larios, Chilean murderer and torturer responsible for the deaths of at least 72 political prisoners following the 1973 coup. Resident in the United States.

The list goes on and on.

 

While I kinda like capitalism, not being a hardcore capi, And while I deeply despise communism I do not believe what happened in latin america was justifiable. I want democratic republicanism, capitalism; Dictatorships using death squads is not on the path to that.

 

Well, first of all, blowback is a concept created by the CIA and used by them to explain how the 9/11 terror attacks happened in the 9/11 Commission Report.

Second, there were a lot of things, going all the way back to 1953. Overthrowing a democratically elected PM in Iran and giving the Shah unrestrained power, which he used to oppress and outright murder his people. No surprise, that led to the Islamic Revolution and the Ayatollah Khomenei's rise to power.

We supported Iraq up until Saddam made a move on the Kuwaiti oil fields.

We constantly funnel money to extremists and then act shocked when they use it against us.

 

Can I recommend you read "Rogue State", by William Blum, ISBN 1 84277 827 7 if you're interested in this stuff.

 

I would say education is an important field, and we are not leading there by any stretch.

 

I've got lots of books to read at the moment that I've got from friends and familiy, on varied topcis; all from theology to communism, not intressted in all of them but I read them out of courtesy. and you get a little more educated. And after that I have plans to read history books, about history, european especially, antiquity, which is where my heart really lies. currently. And swedish history, I'm actually rather bad at that. a shame really, as I'm a self proclaimed nationalist! Also, just to get more of an understanding of politics; read mein kampf (I've read the beginning), das kapital, wealth of nations etc. Maybe I'll come across rogue state someday. But since we're exchanging reccomendations, i'll advise you to read Bill Bryson's 'A Short History of Nearly Everything'. It will give you a good understanding of nearly all major science fields; biology, chemistry, physics, all that. a good read really.

 

Actually, Latino groups account for the largest amount of terror attacks against the U.S.

 

Not average, but if you look at your best you're leading. why else would you be foremost in technology. that said, it wouldn't hurt you if you brought up your average.

 

Foremost in technology? Since when?