Breaking: Francis Fukuyama Declares that Socialism Should Come Back

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  1. webrockk

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    as there will never be a "stateless" society of scale, socialism and communism are the same thing. both have to do with collective ownership of means of production.
     
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    Japan does not suffer socialists well.
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    I believe in a state where the government regulates the economy and plans it but where private business ownership still exists. Healthcare and education is universal where there is a mandatory tax from everybody to pay into it. Wages are at a minimum set number hourly where businesses can't wiggle their way out of them through price hikes or other means. There is a minimum living wage for all workers, this doesn't however mean that everybody gets paid the same.

    Where the central bank is government owned rather than private ownership.

    A society that demands everybody labors where nothing is free but at the same time where there is a generous social public welfare system in place for all citizens, in short I'm a fascist.
     
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    definitely sounds like fascism. fascism is what you have when government officials control the means of production, but are nice enough to let business owners keep their names on the deed.
     
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  5. Carl Von Clausewitz

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    Confirmed.
     
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    They're flocking to loons like Ocasio Cortez here ... at least this guy has no delusions about "cuddly" communism. Here's what I love about American commies. Fidel, for 60 yrs wears the same fatigues and jogging outfit. Cortez puts on a $6, $7,000 outfit and poses for a magazine running a piece lauding socialism. Oligarchs being the universal commie flaw ... how do you get hoodwinked by filthy rich elitists who claim they're socialists? Beto hording $38 mil? Gillum ... on the off chance he wins? Brand new corp. donors lined up, Gillum "softening" on corp. taxes. :no: How stupid are people?
     
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    Embrace fascism.

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    Die as equals?

    Who ever told you life was equal or outcomes were fair lied to you.

    You can NOT legislate fairness. Sorry, don't work. In any system, humans will always be in control, and as such corruption will always lend to unequal outcomes... government is not the format for fairness and the desire to create a fair utopia through legislation is a dangerous unachievable slippery slope.
     
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    Yes. In both systems, it is taking the responsibility for outcomes and transferring it from the people to the government. Socialism is just communism lite.

    Whenever government touches something, it is impossible not to remove liberty from the people.
     
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    He's a dog nmad professor. You got to take him seriously.:roflol:
     
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    That's it. Pick a better country, any country you want, and motate to it.
     
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    Just think how adventures it would! We could all band together and have yearly 2-4000 mile treks across deserts while dragging our flea and tick ridden children while we watch them starve a little and at the end of the rainbow run we all make it to a capitalistic place like the U.S. where we demand they let us live and prosper..

    Liberals are totally ridiculous :)
     
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    Ah spoken like a true socialist! Will there be summer camps we all get to visit, or are they still called gulags in your perfect world?
     
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    WTF^?
     
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    And yet wit all the option globally you choose to subject yourself to this type of torture and unhappiness! Why not NK, it looks to be a perfect fit for your ideology? Then again some people simply want to talk about it and never have the fortitude to realize their dream..

    Or in short "Make every ones life as miserable" too :)
     
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    Think about it 61 posts a day :) Seems someone is already living a relaxed life of what productive others proved ;)

     
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    200 million have died (averaging 2 million a year since 1917), and this lefty has suddenly declared this dated policy of failure should come back.
     
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    And we can fly the US flag while we march, all the while claiming we're fleeing oppression.
     
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    The people don't deserve liberty and are largely irresponsible or stupid with it anyways.
     
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    The libertarian becomes surprised that the fascist comes to his aid in a tug of war against the marxist, but what really surprises the libertarian is when big finance comes in aid helping the marxist in the tug of war.

    Really the comic should of been easy to understand.
     
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    Soon enough when the United States economy collapses we will look like North Korea or maybe worse. At any rate you're just another crony- capitalist that condemns any kind of social reforms. Where libertarians or neo conservatives refuse to act in making things better and changing things we fascists will step in just like we always have.

    No, my goal is the best possible good for a majority of people, your system on the other hand is causing a whole bunch of people misery.
     
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    I work part time and have a lot of empty time on my hands. [boomer logic: work two to three part time jobs then!] It's actually difficult to get one part time job these days let alone two or three, and who wants to live like that anyways? Full time jobs are rare to come by. I gave up on temp agencies and employment firms years ago.

    Since I work part time being barely able to take care of myself I live on the internet in that I cannot afford a social life elsewhere.

    I am actually trying to go back to school eventually and am in the process of signing up possibly for next year. [Or the economy collapses and I become a full time revolutionary in a civil war.]

    [The now evolving and changing American dream....]
     
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    And all your socialist dreams will come true, until the, lil dreamer, enjoy the nightmare that is Capitalism :)
     
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    And still you complain :)
     

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