Britain to ban sale of all diesel and petrol cars and vans from 2040

Or electric cars.

 

Which actually cause more pollution to manufacture and also run on fossil fuel when they plug in

 

The market? If you let the market decide how much they get to pollute than we're rather doomed. Get real. lol

 

The UK government pledged to curb down their CO2 output, by building windfarms etc. So to claim they will burn more coal is not based on anything.

 

I think it's fair to say greater electricity production will be required for this.

You are the market too mate.
It's up to you to decide as much as me.

If you want to buy polluting products that's up to you. Me, I don't need to be forced to do the right thing.
I balance the pluses against the minuses and then make my decision.

 

There is a green policy about that.

I don't see people marching in the streets demanding they must be able to buy petrol cars in 2040 in the UK.

 

The inevitable future will see the slow down and eventual end of petroleum based transportation for all but air travel, likely that as well eventually. Britain is simply slightly ahead of the curve.

I remember when people went nuts over CFL's replacing incandescent bulbs and now everyone is using cheap L.E.D's.

 

I do however seeing them driving their petrol driven cars on the streets.
So it's clear that we like them.

And I certainly like my petrol driven car more than I like greens.
Tax on petrol is a really hot potato politically. Really hot.
Not many votes in Green, plenty more in motorists. Millions more.
The tail doesn't wag the dog.

Also, I don't take this law in any way seriously. Do you?
Do you actually believe in your government? I don't mine.
I think they lie to get power. And I think they are utter idiots. Self obsessed clowns.
Protest? What a waste of my time. Over what? A joke law?
Do you expect them to still be in office in 2040 to deliver this? I expect them all to be dead. Died of old age. Totally beyond your ability to democratically hold to account and beyond mine too, since it's not in my lifetime either.

I'll just keep on voting with my wallet and my feet.
Pass as many stupid laws as you like. Just another one to ignore. Add it to my list of laws I either don't bother with or don't even know about.

 

LED's aren't cheap.
They are cool, but not as cheap as normal bulbs. Way more expensive.
CFL's cost the world billions. In industry all the aerosols and in households all the fridges.
Each house hold on earth was given a £500 bill. Thanks a lot. And the price of spray cans went up by something miniscule. A piddle. 1p a can or whatever, I was over it the first time I heard of it. 1p on the can, you can have.

And the reason all of us in the world didn't get to go to Disneyland that year... was stop the hole in the ozone layer from growing.
Because if we didn't, this man made eco disaster was going to imminently kill us all. The evils of capitalism gone mad I expect.
So we did stop. And it cost us all to do so.

And with the benefit of hindsight we can see that the hole in the ozone layer did not stop growing. That it didn't even slow. That it is still growing.
That nothing we did other than make fridge manufacturers rich changed anything at all.
And not only that. But the bloody world didn't end either and we haven't all become irradiated by solar radiation and died.
So now you want to make windmill makers rich.

Do it with your own money.

Same old muppet squad. Same old con.
Do as I say or the world will end.



No it won't mate. Jog on. Get a proper job. Cut your hair.

 

If banning automobiles saves one life, isn't it worth it?

 

I bought L.E.D's for about $2 a piece but it took me a while to find the spectrum my wife liked. Now my whole house uses them and I have not replaced one in years.

 

Your hyperbolic ignorance is noted.

Have A Nice Day

 

But not expensive to the point of being unaffordable, and the returns are well worth the extra cost up front.

 

I love them, I don't use them for household lighting because the savings aren't anything like as much as the extra cost of the bulbs here.
They would have to last decades before they started paying off.
I would suggest to you that the last time I looked at them in Tescos, a regular bulb cost 20p and a LED bulb for the same regular fitting, cost £9.
That was some years ago perhaps. But not so many I've bothered to look again since. Wrong ballpark figure, out by many mulitples.

But in torches and key rings and in phones etc. where power is at a higher premium due to using batteries. Awesome.
I am mad for them.

 

Do try to grow up, noodle.

 

So your retort is an insult? Gotta love liberals who hate facts...



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Comparing light bulbs to automobiles? You may want to rethink that.

 

Are you familiar with analogous comparison?

 

Yes and yours was an extremely poor one.Comparing light bulbs to automobiles is apples to oranges

 

Okay...let me make it easier to understand.
The world is moving away from petroleum as a fuel source in much the way light emitting diodes are replacing the incandescent bulb.

 

Okay...let me make it easier to understand. Moving away from petroleum is fine but a thousand times more complicated than replacing incandescent light bulbs with light emitting diodes. It's like comparing building a doll house to building a skyscraper. Fossil fuel will someday be obsolete but not in our life times and in fact will take generations.

 

I see...so pretty much exactly what I said in the first place.....cool.

 

Okay...let me make it easier to understand. Moving away from petroleum is fine but a thousand times more complicated than replacing incandescent light bulbs with light emitting diodes. It's like comparing building a doll house to building a skyscraper. Fossil fuel will someday be obsolete but not in our life times and in fact will take generations.

If you agree with me that it will take generations to replace fossil fuel then we are indeed in agreement, sorry for the confusion

 

Ayup....
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The inevitable future will see the slow down and eventual end of petroleum based transportation for all but air travel, likely that as well eventually. Britain is simply slightly ahead of the curve.

I remember when people went nuts over CFL's replacing incandescent bulbs and now everyone is using cheap L.E.D's."

 

Where we differ is the " slightly ahead of the curve"part which led me to believe you think fossil fuel can be phased out in a relatively short time. The UK mandate is way outside slightly ahead of the curve in my time frame and is attempting to ban fossil fuel vehicles at LED light bulb speed which is ludicrous and doomed to fail and obviously a political statement instead of a real policy.