Chinese Warship Steals US Submersible Drone.....

nope, if you can't even comprehend the points in my post, then i doubt you have the IQ to understand it. lol is this what you do when you lose an argument, rather then try to find prove/link to contradicted my point you just yelling like a rabid dog. like i said its not about right/wrong, but nations interest. seem like you are too naive to understand it. oh btw the drone already return within 48 hrs, here you still arguing over it.

 

Actually it was first manufactured in Japan...Currently in China, Indonesia and Malaysia. So what? What does that have to do with stimulating jobs in America? Do you think that suddenly all Barbie dolls are going to be made in the U.S.....When they were first manufactured in Japan? Come come now....Take a chill pill. If China has to pay a tariff then so be it. Perhaps some U.S. manufacturer can make Barbie cheaper with a more level playing field but the market will determine.

 

Ahh, more babble....We weren't discussing production quotas as far as I know. But then, your prior post was almost unreadable as is this one.

 

Its not a market tactic its a militaristic approach. Sun Tzu if you read this its a masterfully crafted approach to the art of war. The U.S used China strength against them by increasing

manufacturing in China to produce a chemical and pollution nightmare. Got it now? The China products to the U.S are all none life needing products.

 

Get glasses for a start. The genome drop short a litter. I have no idea how you misunderstood my approach to my reply. Maybe your toxicity is high?

 

Or maybe your 'approach' just sucks.

 

Sun Tzu would be embarrassed at your using him to justify a milquetoast approach. What do you have against China? Let China compete in a free market where labor costs are equalized. Make no mistake, we are using China, Malaysia and Indonesia as manufacturing centers for our electronic devices because of cheap labor.

 

Agent Orange ... as well the lesser known versions of Agent Blue and Agent White ... are maybe in a grey zone of being WMD's or not. Point is that they are no sort of bomb which makes "bang" and a city is eliminated, nor are gases or virus spread out which kills fast many people in masses ... BUT: Whole land strips were contaminated to this day and many people died of it, many malformations of babies until today and so on.
Sure, goal of them was defoliation of the woods so that VC could hide there and not the intention to poison population, but the "side affects" which do this were widely known and accepted by the US.

In this part is the reason of the Chinese - Vietnamese conflict totally excluded, which explains it more:
Vietnam tended more tot the USSR and not to Chine and so they become aside the East-West cold war also a matter of the inner communist cold war of China and the USSR an issue. But here it was until one important changing point more a cold border issue ... Cambodia!
The terror regime in Cambodia - called Red Khmer - was supported by China and Vietnam with his own interests and backed by the USSR decided to throw off the Red Khmer from power. This brought them in conflict with China!

 

There isn't much 'grey area' here. The defoliants sprayed in Vietnam were not intended to kill or cause massive destruction, which is what WMD are supposed to do. The fact that they were sprayed liberally on US personnel & their allies is indicative of that. You don't deliberately and extensively use WMDs on your own, unprotected soldiers. Agent Orange & related herbicides were also used to defoliate in nations like Brazil & Canada. The longer term effects were unknown at the time and some of the claimed long term effects are disputed.

If these were really 'WMD' it would be pretty clear. That doesn't mean they were good, but that mislabelling obscures rather than enhances understanding.

The conflict with China was brewing before the invasion of Cambodia. Part of it was connected to the treatment of ethnic Chinese in postwar Vietnam. China certainly felt 'surrounded' and it tried to support its client state in Democratic Kampuchea (which was staging bloody raids on Vietnamese territory), but the border issue was also important. That is one of the reasons the war kept bubbling on until 1990, when Vietnam basically conceded Chinese claims. Since then China has continued to assert claims over islands & maritime territory to which Vietnam also has claims. There have been recent clashes at sea.

The nations of Sth East Asia are currently arming up (except the Philippines, which is a military joke) in response to Chinese maritime expansionism. When the US is porting naval vessels in Vietnam you know that China is the issue.

 

which nation are those? both Philippine and malasia are friendlier to china now then before. that only leave Vietnam, Vietnam just had a top official visit to china few month back, china had a friendly warship visit at Vietnams port. ASEAN has 10+ countries, how many of these countries are in bad relationship with china, before it was phillippine, now that changed too. Vietnam are leasing its port to Russia, and other who can afford it. with cancellation of TPP, ASEAN will now draw more closer to china than before. As long as china wont be too assertive in SCS, the warming relationship between them will continue.

 

Totally different scenario, the instance with the surveillance plane, it was forced down due to unsafe flying by the Chinese pilot which resulted in the American plane going down. There was no direct intent to down the plane. In this case the Chinese just floated up and took the drone, there was intent and it was in no way an accident. The plane also landed in Chinese territory, so apprehending the pilots would be quite natural. In this case, the drone was not in Chinese territory. It all goes back to Obama being a limp wristed loser unable to garner even the most miniscule respect around the globe...

 

"its different because its Obama". Gotcha. Fully expected response.

China grabbing an entire US aircraft & crew, interrogating & detaining them = YAWN....nothing to see here. China grabbing a remote mapping submersible = 'Obama is weak'. Russia & China did the exact same things or worse to Bush that they did to Obama. Anyone who didn't decry Bush as 'weak' at the time (convenient ex post facto declarations under the next President don't count) doesn't get to do the same now.

 

Hmm, ask America's best friends the Israelis. They have piracy off to a fine art.

 

For people with a brain, its different because one was caused by an accident and the other was intentional. If you can't see that, there is no point in discussing things with you. Oh, you're just another foreign interloper anyway. Bye Bye...

 

Til wrote: A single tear rolls down my cheek.

Ya mean like dat Indian onna TV...

... when people was litterin' onna highway?