Complete failure of Gun Control

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  1. Ddyad

    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    NYC, according to the NYT a Rich Ghost Town. And it is bankrupt. Kind of a formula for convincing criminals to leave - isn't it?
     
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    I guess it takes time to turn a great city into what its own "newspaper of record" calls a "Rich Ghost Town" where the shops are being boarded up.
     
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    NYC is thriving and has very low crime. Gun control works
     
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    It is a bankrupt failed "city" . Have they rounded up all the remaining homeless in Brooklyn yet.

    No evidence that gun control has reduced crime - anywhere.
     
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    You've been hooked.
     
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    It is a thriving city of 8.5 million people. It is a gleaming example of how gun control can result in low crime where people are safe to walk the streets.

    You lost this one buddy
     
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    Thriving and city, other than this sentence, two words I would not normally use in the same sentence.
     
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    Baloney, other cities with severe gun control have higher gun crime than NYC. You have yet to show any correlation.

    OTOH, why do you suppose police are able to control crime in rich suburbs? Probably the same reason they have better luck in a "Rich Ghost Town".
    CITY LAB, How Manhattan Became a Rich Ghost Town, New York’s empty storefronts are a dark omen for the future of cities., BY DEREK THOMPSON OCT 15, 2018.
    https://www.citylab.com/life/2018/10/how-manhattan-became-rich-ghost-town/573025/
     
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    NYC is surrounded by other strict gun control areas. Have to drive quite a ways. That's why it works there and also why it works in hawaii.

    Maybe you could name a large city that has lax gun laws and low gun deaths? Lol
     
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    How large a city? I live just outside a city of 1500 and we have lax gun laws and low gun deaths.
     
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    Come on rich. That is barely a town
     
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    Then why doesn't it work in Toronto and London? ;-)
     
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    Did you answer my question? Lol
     
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    I can't think of one that isn't a sanctuary city? You know, a DP run urban Hell Hole.
     
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    Not a one? Fancy that! Lol
     
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    Unless it's some kind of anomaly I'll assume you live in a rural area. So why should anyone with common sense be worried about a town like that, with low gun deaths and most likely little to no crime, being somewhat lax about their gun laws? What's missing in the debate over gun laws is common sense. Everybody's afraid their opposite number doesn't have it. Both sides need to relax.
     
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    Guess I missed something. I have no Idea what you are saying. Sorry.
     
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    So, why do Toronto, London and other cities in strict gun control nations have more crime then NYC now?

    Could it be because they have not been transformed into "Rich Ghost Towns"?
    Ordinary human beings and those who prey on them have apparently been driven out of NYC.

    "There are at least three interlinked causes. First, the rent, as you may have heard, is too damn high. It’s no coincidence that retail vacancies are highest in some of the most expensive parts of the city, like the West Village and near Times Square. From 2010 to 2014, commercial rents in the most-trafficked Manhattan shopping corridors soared by 89 percent, according to CBRE Group, a large real-estate and investment firm. But retail sales rose by just 32 percent. In other words, commercial rents have ascended to an altitude where small businesses cannot breathe. Some of the city’s richest zip codes have become victims of their own affluence."
    CITY LAB, How Manhattan Became a Rich Ghost Town, New York’s empty storefronts are a dark omen for the future of cities., BY DEREK THOMPSON OCT 15, 2018.
    https://www.citylab.com/life/2018/10/how-manhattan-became-rich-ghost-town/573025/
     
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    Oh good. That makes it easy.
     
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    Maybe you could name a city that has less crime that Toronto and London and lax gun laws?
     
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    My comment about the small town I live in was just a joke with Vegas Giants. Nothing more.
     
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    As you know all of them had far less crime before severe gun law.s were imposed. Predictably crime, including gun crime soars after the people criminals prey on are disarmed by their governments. Police can't protect a large helpless population.

    Police can protect the rich in their enclaves in the suburbs and in a city that is becoming a virtual rich suburban enclave - like NYC.
     
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    An enclave....with 8.5 million people. Now that is priceless. Lol
     
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    NYC is not "priceless" the average home costs $1,000,000.

    "But in the past five years, the problem of rising vacancies and monotony has actually gotten worse. It would be one thing if New York were simply trading eccentricity for accessibility—that is, knocking down fusty establishments to build new apartments with affordable housing. But the median home value in Manhattan is still over $1 million."
    CITY LAB, How Manhattan Became a Rich Ghost Town, New York’s empty storefronts are a dark omen for the future of cities., BY DEREK THOMPSON OCT 15, 2018.
    https://www.citylab.com/life/2018/10/how-manhattan-became-rich-ghost-town/573025/
     
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    Yes it is a thriving metropolis......and it has low crime due to gun control
     

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