Complete failure of Gun Control

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  1. DentalFloss

    DentalFloss Well-Known Member

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    No? Than what would you consider "common sense gun control"? Be specific.
     
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    AK's firearm death rate includes a large number of suicides. I, too, would probably off myself if I lived there. Also, the population density is so low that as seemingly trivial a difference of 10 total deaths would vastly impact the per 100k rate that is the standard.
     
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    Right, except I was talking about violent crime rates, not suicides. The violent crime rate I'm referring to is based on per 10k. But ok, how about AR, MO, NM, LA, SC, NV? All have lax gun laws but a higher violent crime rate than CA.
    Again, all I'm trying to point out is that this isn't a black and white issue.
     
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    I will agree this is a complex issue with many factors at play
     
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    No it hasn't. Nore have I noticed it here in Massachusetts with its strict gun control.

     
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    If it bugs you it's probably a good common sense law. So, what gun laws bug you? Be specific. ;)
     
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    You dodging the question is duly noted.
     
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    No, you're dodging the question. What gun laws bug you?

    Since you're being shy about it I'll help you. Would banning the AR15 bug you?
     
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    I might be incorrect but it looks like DentalFloss posed a question first. Maybe if you answer his he will answer yours.

    So... "what would you consider 'common sense gun control?'"
     
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    Since gun control has been a constant in NYC gun control cannot be responsible the reduction in crime since NYC's transformation into a ghost town of the rich.
     
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    It's just a giant coincidence that the largest most successful and diverse city in the US has low crime and effective gun control.


    A giant coincidence. Lol
     
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    Correct, you are incorrect. There's no law demanding an answer to a question in here before you're allowed to ask a qualifying question.
     
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    True, it’s not a law. It is, however, common courtesy to actually answer a persons question before asking a question. Is it too much to ask of you to answer a question before asking one of your own?
     
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    Knowing the history of this forum, absolutely.
     
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    So then you'll get nowhere. Brilliant
     
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    1. Crime was high in NYC under strict gun control.

    2. When did Hawaii impose strict gun control, and when did crime there drop and how much?

    3. Canadian cities have more crime than NYC.

    4. In the EU criminals receive free hand grenades when they buy their sub-machine guns. I am surprised you would mention the EU in the aftermath of the Strasburg slaughter.

    5. Japanese criminals seem to prefer more exotic weapons like sarin.

    6. Reports of crime reductions often prove to be Fake News. For instance:

    "Correction: January 4, 2018
    An earlier version of this article mischaracterized the crime rate in Victoria State over the past five years. It has risen nearly 20 percent, not fallen nearly 20 percent."
    NEW YORK TIMES, Australia’s Prime Minister Warns of ‘Gang Violence’ by African Migrants, By Adam Baidawi, Jan. 4, 2018.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/04/world/australia/gang-violence-melbourne-turnbull.html
     
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    As if you have Brillant.
     
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    I do as long as others abide by the common courtesy rule :-D
     
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    A lot of CA's criminals have moved to "Los Anchorage", and the natives have not managed to shoot enough of them yet.

    "As cocaine and crack abuse surged in the 1980s, so too did the number of gangs and gang members in what some Alaskans began to refer to as “Los Anchorage.”
    And as the violence associated with street-level narcotics sales began to increase, there was hesitation among law enforcement officials to apply the “gang” label to the new type of crimes they were seeing.
    Street gang members from the Lower 48 moved north in greater numbers in the late 1980s to escape trouble and to make money, the police say.
    “We started seeing tagging for example, or graffiti, and then there were a lot of fights and some of them started to involve weapons,” former Anchorage Police Chief Walter Monegan said."

    KTUU, A brief history of street gangs in Anchorage, By Casey Grove and Leyla Santiago (from KTUU.com), November 16, 2009.
    http://www.streetgangs.com/news/111609_anchorage-gang-history#sthash.rzV64aK4.tVG8MA8R.dpbs
     
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    1. Its very low now and gun control deserves much of the credit.

    2. Look it up. They have very low gun deaths now

    3. So? Canada has a much lower gun death rate than the US thanks to gun control

    4. False

    5. How many died from sarin last year? 30,000 died from guns in the US

    6. We both know NYC has a low crime rate due to gun control. Why deny it? LOL
     
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    What's the excuse for AR, MO, NM, LA, SC, NV?
     
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    Yes you claimed it was swarms of Samoans doing the killing there. I thought that was quite funny
     
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    They all have lax gun control which must at least play a part in their high gun death rate
     
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    Alrighty then.
     

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