(cont) Holocaust Memorial.......

Until the aftermath of WWII we all knew that 'all was fair in love and War', the victors propoganda since WWII though has made the Conquered into complete Devils and the Allies into either idiots and traitors or if American, Heros.

If we go back to seeing things for what they really were we might have a chance to stop us getting worse ...following lies just gets us all into more trouble.

 

Then I suggest avoiding revisionists and conspiracy theorists.

 

Thanks for the link, AF, will read later, when I have cleared the decks here.

Serf, you would do well to open your mind a bit, fella.

AF is a female, who has years on you, who has had dialogue with Jews etc, about such matters.

It could be fairly argued that six million Jews being gassed is a conspiracy theory.

Or 17,000 Roma.

 

lol... thanks. Seriously though, there are a few Soviet apologists here. Most are Russian, but there was one Australian who used to come around here a lot.

There was a second Australian who still posts here as well.

 

Never noticed.

Apologists for what - the Red Army?

Are we agreed then that the commie Red Army were culpable of the mass murder, rape, and oppression, of millions?

Yes?

And that they never answered for their many war crimes, and should have.

Yes?

 

Never noticed.

Apologists for what - the Red Army?

Are we agreed then that the commie Red Army were culpable of the mass murder, rape, and oppression, of millions?

Yes?

And that they never answered for their many war crimes, and should have.

Yes?

 

Although this is not the subject -
1. No one says that six million jews were gassed.
2. AF being an elderly woman (just kidding AF...) has nothing to do with it
3. Oh, she had a dialogue with jews. She must be an expert then. As a conclusion, if I am a jew, from a surviving family., my words cannot be disputed, Right?

 

Uri.

I am not going to comment on your family.

 

Uri.

I am not going to comment on your family.

 

Which is fine, the point i was making, is that if AF is such an expert since she talked to jews, i must be the world's leading expert, since i'm a jew from a surviving family.
If this is not true, then AF's "talking to jews" has no relevance.

 

It would have same relevance - which is that it would be stories that were personal to you both, and perhaps conflicting.

But further than that, I am not going into your family, as I think you are an okay fella, and I am just not going there.

 

..............

 

He got ya ! ......don't let them tease you

 

I'm really trying to understand here -
What is it with my family story that makes you so uncomfortable?
Is it harder for you to deny things when someone has the documents to prove that these things did happen?
When his immediate family was affected by it?

I'm a grown up, i wont be offended.
(well, i will. but what the hell, it's an internet forum, worst case scenario, i'll just go and cry on my wife's shoulder)

 

I just do not consider it respectful, by my measure, for one thing, even if you say you are good with it.

I would apply the same standard to any member on here.

 

Uri, if you really want to do it then tell us what documents and how they have been authenticated.

As emotive as this subject is objectivity is the only way to find truth when it comes to History.

 

If he looked like Natalie Portman, I wouldn't mind..

 

Ok, I won't argue on this.

 

Ehm.
I look like a cross of Brad pitt and Moshe dayan.

 

Nope...that is not doing it.

Mind you.

Six or seven pints..

 

authenticated?
Are we being serious here?
authenticated?
They were sent to my family during WW2.
From the camps.

I don't expect you to believe me of course, since it might shatter your ideal world of "Harsh conditions, no food for everyone" etc.
In any case, i have nothing to defend here, nothing to "authenticate".

 

Six or seven?
You are english, no doubt about it.

 

See.

This what happens.

Okay, gypsies.

Uri, do you think the gypsies bring a lot of the antipathy on themselves, or is it people just hating on those that live a different sort of life?

How do you feel, for instance, about all the black people that came into Israel, through Egypt, that looked a bit ugly, last time I looked.

Are they sort of your 'gypsies'?

 

Does that seem too few?

I can do shooters on top.

And a couple of joints at the finish.

 

What were sent from the Camps ?

I am not asking you to defend anything, you bought documents into the coverstaion, I didn't.