(cont) Holocaust Memorial.......

Too few???????
My liver would burst after 6 or 7 pints.

My god...

 

All sorts of things -
a postcard saying "We are doing well".
2 letters of death a few days later.

And a signed statement as to the real cause of death after the war.

 

Hard core we are.

6 or 7 makes me a lighweight to my mates.

We also fight with people randomly, and then hug them two mins later.

The wee guys here are the hardest.

If world war broke out, I would just send 200 of our wee guys, tanked up on Stella.

 

Sure, I don't know how you got the impression that I thought otherwise.

We only sided with the Soviets because they were the lesser of two evils. It's what we've done for years now. Unfortunately, the "enemy of my enemy" is only temporarily our friend in most cases.

 

Sadly, we leave in a world where people who look different, or behave different from anyone else, are looked as different.
And the behaviour of some people towards them, can only be described as racist.
This is/was the case of every minority group from the begining of time, probably.
I belong to one, the gypsies belong to one, and the African's who come to israel belong to one.

 

I've got an Ukranian friend, and another one who spent his teen years in belgium, they can dring heavily.
I'll just end up in the nearest hospital.

 

People did get post cards and letters, I know. I am so sorry they died there so far from loved ones.

Where were you when you got them and what did the first notifications of their deaths say was the cause of death, the dates ect.

But who sent the ones after the War, that is really what I am asking and how were they authenticated and how long after the War ?

Don't have to answer, no probs if you don't want too

 

Nothing to do with the lesser of two evils. They got us to were we wanted to be. There are no friends in the World of Politics, Allies are not friends.

 

Good.

So we are now agreed that the Commie Red Army were among the worse, most murdering, raping, and oppressive regime, of recent memory.

So, by extension, any nation that went as far as to actually honour the Red Army, would be approving of the above, right?

 

So should that not then mean Jews, more than most, should be welcoming and accomdating, toward another one, given they apparently know what it is to be one, and be alientated?

 

How much different is any Army ? They won the Second World War ....... We were no angels either. War makes for barbarity.

 

Also our ginger people are not to be fully trusted.

I for one do not.

Apparently, they have no souls.

 

I wasn't born yet...
My father's side lived in the netherlands for many years.
They were a family of boers - farmers.
a few months after the germans conqured the netherlands, they took my grandmother's father and brother to mauthausen.
My grandmother recieved a postcard saying they are doing fine, with an adress, where they can send parcels.

A few days later two letters arrived -
One for her father, who apperantly died from amonia, and the other one for her brother, who apperantly died from amonia, 5 minutes after his father.
(there was dates/time)
It was signed by the camp doctor.

After the war, documents found in the camp showed that they were thrown off the "Stairs of Death".

My grandparents hid in the house of dutch christians during most of the war, when jews were being rounded up and dent to the camps.
They were snitched, and turned over to the germans in the last few months, the head of the family who hid them was taken to the camps too.

Long and sad story.
My grandmother's dad and brother were takn

 

In a perfect world, yes.
But as i keep saying, jews are just like anyone else.
As there is racism in every country in the world, there is also racism in israel.

 

Right, so who raped every women in Berlin?

Red Army.

Who was responsible of the internment, murder, etc, etc, of tens of millions of mainly white Russian christians? Commie Bolsheviks.

Did the communist regime last longer than the NA regime? Yes, by miles.

Did it oppress more countries? Yes, again by miles.

Were people ALWAYS trying to escape from Commie countries, including E Germany?

Yes.

Were most Germans trying to escape Gemany, during the NA? Nope.

See?

 

It is well known that stalin is not remembered as the most brutal dictator of the 20th century just because hitler existed.

 

But you just said they were a persecuted minority, thus, not like ANYONE else, but one that should empathise, should you not, with all persecuted minorities, both in word and in deed.

If you cannot do this, as a collective, then what if the tide turns, as it can you know, and Jews become persecuted outwith Israel, again?

And they cannot leave.

You would surely want us to assist the persecuted, would you not?

 

Yes, indeed.

But Stalin, the Commies, the Bolsheviks, and the concept of Communism itself, it accounted for far greater loss of life, more oppression, etc, than the NA ever did.

 

I suppose that depends on who you ask. Among some of the paranoid nutters here, I'd be surprised if they have any friends in their personal lives.

 

Some have magic friends in the sky.

Praise be.

 

Perhaps.... I guess it's a bit like when people pretend that death camps aren't death camps. I'm not sure which is worse -- approving of vile acts, or denying they even happened.

 

I have a question for you Jack. Do you think the above is true because of the Commies being innately worse than the Nazies, or do you think it has more to do with the fact that we defeated the Nazies instead of the Commies?

I'd say the Nazies could have done just as much damage if not more if we had instead sided with them to defeat the Soviets.

 

But honouring evil?

 

But honouring evil?

 

Evil is relative. If honoring an ally with questionable methods means preventing yet another world war, I'm ok with that.