Corporate Republican solutions to living on part-time minimum wages

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  1. Alwayssa

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    Both Colbert and Rush make me laught, but for different reasons. I guess that is the true value of shock jock entertainment these days.
     
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    Do the math. Let's just say we increase the minimum wage by $3 an hour (to about $10 an hour). McDonalds has half a million workers in the U.S. Let's assume 25 hr weeks for them. Let's assume they work 50 weeks a year. That increase you gave them cost $1,875 million, or $1.875 billion. They went from making a profit to losing half a billion a year under your plan. And that was using seat of the pants low-ball estimates.
     
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    It was Obama that gave them a year long tax cut by exempting them from the mandate to provide health insurance or pay a fine, how do ya feel about that Dave?
     
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    240 man hours a week is 6 people. 240 man hours per day is 30 people. Can liberals do math? This is two in a row that I have responded to that are way off.
     
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    More waterboarding of American business won't make the economy grow.

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    NO! They can't!
     
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    For McDonalds whose grose revenue is around $60 billion, that is chump change and does not significantly affect their profit, assuming everyting else is equal.
     
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    Oh BS. You hate the argument because it's spot on. You clamor about the min wage and defend let our schools go to (*)(*)(*)(*) because of PC's. You defend the ACA because it's supposedly compassionate, but it isn't. So, don't give me some BS argument about how evil the world is while u defend what makes it so.
     
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    Then why not $20/30/hr......we would be booming!

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    :roflol: I knew I'd get a taker! Thanks!
     
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    Actually it does. If McDonalds paid $10 an hour, all would have to follow suit, or let McDonalds get the cream of the crop as to working poor workers. This is in turn would mean the entire economy would have more money in their pockets, as you can't have burger flippers getting $10 while someone in construction was making $15. Such an injection into the economy would mean more money in people's pockets, and as long as prices stayed the same, things might start taking off again. Twice as many burgers sold for a 25% increase in wages. The problem, all said companies are making ridiculous profits, larger than the roaring 20s, and the chance one would do it voluntarily is inconceivable. Raising minimum wage just creates a backlash from the business community, so you need it to be organic. The way the government could do it is marginal tariffs, just enough to get maybe half of the overseas operations to bring business back, sucking from the labor supply and creating a demand. This would set everything in motion calmly, vs the in-your-face approach that is the raising of minimum wage.
     
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    Please, your anti-leftist rant has no bearing on me. When you're out shopping and want a price on something, and they tell you, do you scream, "why not 5 million for that bag of potato chips!?!". Of course not, because you'd look retarded.
     
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    I live in China and I can guarantee you they can't. Especially ​cleaner.
     
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    Ever consider that there just might be a connection between so very many folk on that minimum wage and our fearless leaders economic schemes? 3/4 of last months pitiful job growth was part time employment. In fact 3/4 of the last YEARS job 'growth' was part time. If minimum wage is too small to live on, would it not be easier to live on with 33% more hours a 40 hour week?
     
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    Why should an employer pay you more when you waste it on crap like smokes?
     
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    How many middle ground jobs did we lose to China? 10 million? More? Did those who support "free trade" think there wouldn't be consequences? The right wing is arguing as if it is '85 and fast food workers are demanding a raise. Our country is comprised of of primarily white collar jobs and service. Did you think all the blue collar workers would just disappear? Hell, Clinton signed in all the free trade crap. This is your chance to forever steal the workers of America from the left.
     
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    Why even graduate from High School?

    Heck, you are guaranteed a minimum wage no matter how stupid and uneducated you are.

    That's not fair to others.
     
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    How many middle ground jobs did we lose to China? 10 million? More? Did those who support "free trade" think there wouldn't be consequences? The right wing is arguing as if it is '85 and fast food workers are demanding a raise. Our country is comprised of of primarily white collar jobs and service. Did you think all the blue collar workers would just disappear? Hell, Clinton signed in all the free trade crap. This is your chance to forever steal the workers of America from the left.
     
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    So why haven't companies gone ahead and replaced the bulk of our undeducated workers who demand more and more of everyone else with less of themselves with monkey's and machines? Would you maintain that companies feel some sort of moral obligation to keep American's working even though it may cost them more money?
     
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    Why should the top be allowed to make as much as they want when they spend it on crap like boats? See, we can both play that game. The point wasn't what I was buying, the point was wages haven't even came close to keeping up with inflation. I've never met a man with money who didn't work his ass of to get where he was at. Are we really at a point where those who were lucky enough to break through before free trade and out of control inflation are going to condemn their countrymen. I care not about the bum who deserves to be so. I care about the man or woman who put in 30 years at a real job just to now have to apply to fast food joints because the plant was moved to China.
     
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    No it's not the same.

    You are demanding that they give you more of their money.

    It's their money, not yours.

    Go start your own fricking company.
     
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    They have, the Obama administration has waterboarded them bad enough to make them flee the company overseas.
     
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    There was a time, when business owners were tied to the community and the people who worked for them. Maybe it was due to epic wars, where every man bled the same. There was no running to another country for workers while having the nerve to still refer to yourself as an American. I am not demanding anything. I am simply suggesting people who have the nerve to pay their workers $7 an hour in 2013 put themselves in their employee's shoes. I am a capitalist, friend. With every inch of my soul. I know the days of capitalists with honor, men like Henry Ford, are long gone. I just want the ideal to live longer than the day bloody business owners are drug through the streets. I want the worker reading to know this modern age of traitors has nothing to do with capitalism, and everything to do with globalism, and the anti-nationalist ideals they have brainwashed the top into believing is right.
     
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    There was a time when government was small, less intrusive, and less regulatory.

    Maybe you should start there.
     
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    There hasn't been a piece of legislation written by an actual congressman in probably 100 years. We have no government. We have wardens of the work camp. Collecting a pay check like everyone else. The disdain you have for "government" isn't even close to where mine is at.
     
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    Now the juice of the fruits of their labor to "fundamentally change America" is far more sour than they their spoonfeedings had assured them, it must be "Corporate Republicans' " fault(s).

    FIVE YEARS LATER,and Obama's policies are STILL NOT TO BLAME, in Leftninny Goofyworld....
     
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    The Dems in Washington knew that obamaCare was going to limit jobs when they passed that dumb law.

    Liberalism is actually rewarded for the failure of its ecomic policies since it just ends up creating more Obama voters looking for a government handout.
     

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