Corporate Republican solutions to living on part-time minimum wages

An interesting chart: http://www.ssa.gov/cgi-bin/netcomp.cgi?year=2011

40.28% of wage owners in 2011 made less than $20,000 according to SS statistics. No clutter about other taxes, no clutter about number of jobs, just pure wages for an individual. Is this any way to run a country? Someone working at $10.10 per hour at 40 hours per week for 50 weeks = $20,200 per year.

Let the spinning begin.

 

To bad, it should, because it's spot on.

Retarded? oh my, didn't you know u can't use that term anymore......well, unless you're an ass clown lefty like Bill Maher describing Palin's child...then you get a pass.

Oh, so you see the point I was making, good.

 

There is another option, allow the market to decide wage levels and provide a negative income tax.

An article on Minimum Wage V Negative Income Tax as Means of Poverty Alleviation

 

First, they have replaced alot of labor with machines reducing the workforce. Monkeys may soon come when breeding and training cost become cheaper. Second, when the technology that allows for a machine to take a material from one area to a next becomes cheap and easy, it will be finished. All the company will need is a few managers overseeing the machines.

 

What do you think will be the time frame for all of this to occur?

 

So far, there is no difference indicated between BEFORE Obamacare and AFYER Obamacare.

Companies for 15 years have been cutting every job possible from full time with some benefits like health care, vacations, paid holidays, ot part time with NO benefits at all. This has been their announced and deliberate strategy to continue to make new record profits every year.

There is not ONE bit of true evidence that Obamacare is anything more than a convenient scapegoat for companies to blame for actions they have been and will be taking anyway.

 

Proof please Dave. You are saying this is a historical fact.



The surge of part-time employment. The real facts don't agree with you. So prove what you say or retract the statement.

 

Do you think Lincoln knew that eliminating slavery would cause high unemployment?

 

I would guess 20 years , 30 max .

 

Its called inflation.... Stop voting for the over spending idiots and problem is solved.

 

A link to your numbers please or i will consider it the usual crap you post.

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No we have forgotten dont have kids until you can afford them. If you are flipping burgers for $8.50 an hour why are you having kids?

 

Interesting either you just called Fiddler a Right winger or you think this topic should be in the humor section which is it?

 

Your entire premise is that since Mcdonalds would pay more every company like them would pay more so then every company would pay more to compete and no raised prices?

Dream world!

 

http://www.smartplanet.com/blog/bulletin/australia-where-mcdonalds-workers-earn-15-an-hour/25806

Maybe because you had a good job that got outsourced to China?

 

Ross Perot tried to warn people.... I voted for him who did you vote for?

 

"The student’s study was slightly flawed"... Really no (*)(*)(*)(*) it was flawed...

Your entire point is based on a STUDENTS study that is FLAWED.. this is what happens why you make a point and then try to google your way out of it. You get flawed studies and opinion blogs.

 

There is a bigger issue here. The two parties that we have may differ on social issues, but both are in lockstep as far as keeping the Oligarchy in power. After all it is the Oligarchies that put these folks in power to begin with.

We do not live in a free market economy for the most part. There are high barriers and impossible regulation put in place by the Oligarchy to keep competition away.

Monopoly and anti competition laws that are on the books are not enforced.

All of this is unfair. There is no right of an oligopoly to rape the land and enslave labor.

Back in the day when the industrial revolution was underway most folks lived in rural areas. There was not enough labor in the cities to staff industry.
The various industries made deals with the cities and people in order to do business and attract labor. Part of that deal was that they would pay their fair share of Taxes. "back in the day" industry paid 50% of the tax to have and maintain the infrastructure needed to support these factories.

Today corporations pay 10% of the tax and yet they still benefit from that infrastructure. Who provides that infrastructure ? The average citizen is paying 90%.

Is that fair ?

 

NO!

MY point is that in Australia, Mcdonalds workers ARE paid close to $15/hr, and yet the Mcdonald's are opening by the hundreds and their hamburgers sell by the BILLIONS!

The Right and their phony ideologies are simply corporate-paid denialism for personal profit at society's expense..

 

Most Maccas on Australia employ kids who dont get $15/h and our cost of living is substantially higher than in the US.

Gotta love these Marxists, they allow capitalism to find companies that work (unlike their communism utopias) then want to force their socialism on them to regulate wages and im sure if they could prices.

 

Then why post a flawed study... And what does Australia have to do with the US?

 

when it comes to percentages, no they are no. McDonalds does not make as much profit at you think, around 4%. That four cents for every dollar earned. Most other comapneis make around that much. And this does not include the money spent to shareholders since that cannot be deducted from its retained earning..

Your solution will have some consequences. McDonalds will probably close is less profitiable stores and most of these would be in the inner city. This will affect inner city youths who need the money to hlep pay for school AND family. They cannot do that with construction jobs because they will have to make a choice between shocool or a job, at the age of 16. You are then creating an uneducated workforce and that is not a good thing either.

In the 1950's, 60's, 70's and 80's, these type of jobs were for the youth. The youth did not have to, generally, worry about house payments, food, etc. that job was done so that they can buy their first car or take their girlfriend out on a date or save for college, etc. Nowadays, with about half of the miminaum wage jobs earners being those who have to support a family and are clearly adults, your solution will increase that percentage. ANd that is not a good thing.

 

Mods, please close this thread. It is flame bait and the op does not keep to forum rules. Thank you

 

So after four and a half years of Obama's "recovery" what we really have is a bunch of (*)(*)(*)(*) pay part time jobs and nearly half the country still on one kind of welfare or another. Oh, and liberal socialist Democrats want to blame that on the conservative right? Nobody with any sense would believe that.

 

You know what is even funnier. When we talk about business and creating jobs, we always get the left saying, "well there are successful liberal business owners who want higher taxes etc" but when something like this comes out, all corporate people are republicans now lmao

 

Are you referring to the over spending republicans or the ultra over spending democrats? Republicans had full control of all 3 branches at one point under Bush. They did everything but cut any big government spending.