Corporate Republican solutions to living on part-time minimum wages

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  1. Til the Last Drop

    Til the Last Drop Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Have you ever been in one of those environments? Basically, every one of those types of operations have about 30% real workers to 70% retards. That's why they have to design their workplaces to make them retard friendly, but the 30% pulls the weight. I don't know what any of them are going to do when they can only keep the 30% there for 25 hours a week once Obamcare comes into play. If you think service is a joke now, just wait 'til the start of the new year. But I will tell you this, any place that was smart enough to steal that 30% from all the others until they are comprised of a 100%, will have service/production that would blow the rest out of the water. Perhaps owners just look at all their workers the same in those scenarios, but I have no doubt the managers know.
     
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    johnmayo New Member Past Donor

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    Corporate Republican solutions to living on part-time minimum wages:

    A better job made possible by business investment. They only kind that exist after all.

    The democrats plan:

    More welfare abd government that kills the goose that creates the jobs in the first place.
     
  3. Old School Whig

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    You know of course that companies like WalMart donate to all parties,right?
     
  4. Til the Last Drop

    Til the Last Drop Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The stores are operated locally. That 4% has no barring on what the actual store operator is making. And I don't know anyone who would be in a business to make four cents on every dollar spent. So I have a tough time believing that number as far as the corporation is concerned.

    The whole reason why 80% of inner city youth would rather be gangsters or on welfare is because working at McDonalds is a joke. I live in Idaho, one of the lowest cost of living places in America, and I can only imagine how far 10k a year, working full time, would get someone in the city. My idea would bring factories back. Real 30k - 50k a year jobs. I know no one who would rather be on welfare for 10k a year, nor do I know anyone who works 60 hrs a week that has any energy for gang banging in their spare time.

    Yes these jobs were for youth, and rightly so. But middle class jobs have shrunk drastically. It is no longer the young, handicapped and elderly working at them. I don't want to push for burger flippers to make $15 an hour. I want $15 dollar an hour factory jobs back. All will be right as rain. But if service sector jobs think they are going to keep getting the cream of the crop blue collar workers for pennies on the dollar, while manufacturers get Chinese children for a bag of rice a month, and everyone drinks champagne and laughs, they are kidding themselves. Revolutions have been fought for much less.
     
  5. Mac-7

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    You are wasting your time.

    Libs do not understand how the private economy works.

    That's why they think only in terms of how to grow the government.
     
  6. Til the Last Drop

    Til the Last Drop Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Good god, Mac. I remember you, even if you don't me. You're as protectionist as I am. That's all I was referring to. Don't hop on the "left vs right" bandwagon of people using shortcuts to think. Do you see 20 "left wing" political forum members liking my posts? Exactly. Next time read 1st.
     
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    Also, why do people cheer the elimination of workers?
     
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    bomac New Member Past Donor

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    Actually, they do. He said that businesses would use it as an excuse to go to part-time workers.
     
  9. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    if their profits are $1.5 billion, of course it will make a difference.
     
  10. fiddlerdave

    fiddlerdave Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So what magic wand or super gun does Obama wave to get the TRILLIONS invested in China and third world countries by our OWN corporate leaders (the ones who write the laws, too) BACK into the USA in order to provide jobs?

    As we see with the Republican icon Romney, the "Reoublican Solution" simply allows the wealthy to make a huge stash of cash which ONLY provides investment in the Cayman islands investment community. Romney's work in the USA is mostly simply stripping the remains of our businesses and employee pensions, etc. for his OWN profit as the bones are cleaned.

    If government regulation is eliminated, as the Right wishes, the streets of America will resemble the streets of Bangladesh once the corporate pirates finish cleaning us out.
     
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    John Anderson and Ralph Nader
     
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    bomac New Member Past Donor

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    Change the subject much to avoid an issue?
     
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    Til the Last Drop brought up an important point. You can not use McD's profits (whether higher or lower) to discuss the minimum wage issue. You should be discussing how minimum wage would affect a franchise owner. McD gets its money on fees (including sales volumes). I can accept that is costs a franchise $0.17 on a burger for an increase. So then the discussion should be about how that affects profits, prices and sales volume.

    If you break it down to 60 workers, you have to eliminate the staff and anybody making more than $11.00 per hour. You have to also reduce the workforce by calculating how many 40 hour a week does the workforce represent. Now do your calculation based on that number with a raise of $3 and begin your discussion.
     
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    When did any of this become a valid function of government?

    The Republic got by just fine for a long time without any consideration of this nonsense.
     
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    When? Were the majority of people "just fine" before 1908?
     
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    This couldn't be cause by Obama Care. Could it Fiddler?
     
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    Of course not...

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  18. Taxcutter

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    "Were the majority of people "just fine" before 1908?"

    Taxcutter says:
    Pretty much.
     
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    No, that has been the focus of conservatives and the Republican party.

    NAFTA was originally proposed by George H W Bush.

    It is Republicans who have stood in the way of raising the minimum wage consistantly for forty years, now.

    It is Republcians who deregulated Wall Street into a casino that eventually collapsed. And their solution was to propose a "get out of jail" free card to Wall Street was even more generous than the one Wall Street got.

    It is the Republcians who have enacted and defended tax policies that shifted wealth and income towards the very rich, and threatened to shut the government down to defend those cuts.

    It is the Republicans who have failed or fought investment in infrastructure, again, over forty years now.

    Offshoring and outsourcing are helped in large part by tax policies favored by the GOP.
     
  20. fiddlerdave

    fiddlerdave Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Since cutting full time employees with benefits and hiring part time employees without has been a MAJOR corporate policy to boost profits for the last 5 years, WAY before obamacare, no, it is NOT "being caused" by Obamacare.

    Obamacare is simply the excuse of the day.

    An example:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regal_Entertainment_Group
    And the current situation is EXACTLY what the Republicans want.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unemployment_in_the_United_States
     
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    I have no idea why anyone would choose a part time low wage job, when they can have one of the awesome shovel ready full time jobs, the president created.
     
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    I just can't understand why people choose to take a minimum wage job when all they have to do is go get a college degree and wham they will be instant millionaires. It's inconceivable really.
     
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    Maybe college student need minimum wage jobs so that they can get through college to become instant millionaires. Now why would anyone want to help students get through college? Isn't that daddy's job?
     
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    Not a single Republican voted FOR Obama Care, so the current situation is what the Democrats wanted.
     
  25. fiddlerdave

    fiddlerdave Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    BS.

    Republicans demanded various changes (including a requirement that Congressional employees lose their company paid health insurance in order to have to pay it ALL through the exchanges designed for individuals).

    They worked hard to mess it up as much as possible.
     

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