Could a Republican please explain to me what they mean by "Perjury Trap"?

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  1. AmericanNationalist

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    Of interest to Perjury in this case, is the purported statement by McCabe that sans the dossier, they wouldn't have gotten authorization(like all things political, it's in dispute.) If McCabe's purported testimony is accurate, then yes the aforementioned agents committed Perjury(as outlined by Wiki, omitting facts that would have changed the nature of the proceedings.)

    More likely however, is the words we've all come to know: Obstruction of Justice. That, and just flat out fraud. Perjury is harder to prove.
     
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    The FBI doesn't give a **** about Wikipedia. They want scalps. Never ever believe an agent at face value. This was told to me BY an agent. It's perfectly okay for them to lie to you. You get caught in a gray area speaking to them and then you could be toast depending on what you had to offer as toward their purpose. Believe what you want, but it's the way it works.
     
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    Well, there is the fact you've stated you know what a perjury trap is, and you've established that you will be the judge of who is honest, and what is an intelligent answer.

    It's like being asked to feed a Tiger and being told to go ahead, it doesn't bite.

    Anyway, good luck. Interesting question.
     
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    It’s easy to link a what would appear to be an irrelevant lie to the case to the investigation by the prosecution.

    It would be up to the defense attorney to argue the non relevant “lie” but the damage has already been done in the form of a perjury charge from the prosecution.
     
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    You keep diverting to a different investigation than the one I referred to. You want to go back to the one Hillary blamed on a movie and a spur of the moment mob
     
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    I never pretended to be 'retired'. I did pretend to be a cop for seven years but that was a long time ago. Today I allow myself to pretend I know more than you do about the topic.
     
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    Russ103 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    “Pretend” being the key word.
     
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    It works for me. :)
     
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    Pretending to be innocent? The first sentence opening this thread refers to Trump as a pathological liar!

    You racist White supremacists are never shy about displaying how your lack a grasp on reality, are you?
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    I'm glad you liked it. Sorry to see that nobody on the right had an answer.

    I guess all it takes for them to accept something is to hear it on right-wing media. And they understand that it must not be questioned.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    I don't know what difference that would make (no pun intended). I'm responding to a poster who claims that Trump shouldn't submit to questioning because he would be grilled. And I gave an example in which somebody whom the poster would consider "less qualified for the job of President" is grilled for hours and hours and holds her ground.

    So my question is now: does this mean that we have now learned that Hillary has more stamina than Trump?

    The video shows how a person who is accused of something of which they are not guilty would respond.
     
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    It's not possible if you refuse to answer . We all have the right to remain silent .
     
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    Possibly. Or they are too smart to play your game.
     
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    You asked for an answer from a Republican and I am a Republican. The Trump base are not Republicans since their ideals differ from ours big time. So here we go with the explanation. A perjury trap occurs when a question is asked by the questioner who already knows the answer. The questionee responds by lying through his teeth and then denying the truth. The problem occurs when the questionee is a pathological liar and his handlers know it. Amen.
     
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    Not a game, my friend. This is serious stuff. Lying to the Feds is serious stuff. Obstruction is serious stuff. Money laundering is serious stuff. The Russian connection is serious stuff and who better to address these issues than Trump?
     
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    If this is the Benghazi thing, I watched the hearings and they were an expensive farce. They were looking for stuff and they had nothing to report because she was not guilty of the accusations. And she answered the questions. Let's not forget that she had a lot on her plate beside Benghazi.
     
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    Please point to were I've claimed these things aren't serious?

    My reference was to the nature and objective of this thread.
     
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    That is the issue that I have with the Trump base because simple questions won't be on the docket. They are uninformed.
     
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    Interesting.

    Given all the revelations that have surfaced in the Mueller investigation, demotions, fabrications, vendetta's, etc., when will the farce line be crossed, or do partisan objectives limit the ability to see it?
     
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    This doesn't involve 10 different people. By your count, nobody would ever be found guilty of anything because there is always reasonable doubt.
     
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    To arrive at the Truth?
     
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    If that were true, this thread might be worthwhile.

    By admission of it's author, the purpose of this thread is not to arrive at the truth.
     
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    There has been none of that or anything else so far unless you are making it up because Mueller has had nothing to say.
    He is a Republican. You just are opposed to anyone investigating your guy and Trump came into office with a lot of baggage.
     
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    None of that so far? Apparently you are quite uninformed....
     
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    You are trivializing perjury. We’ve already indicted several for lying. I do have to laugh at the people who hold themselves morally superior ..Clinton was Impeached for Lying about sex , after all is so much more serious than lying about Russia attacking our democracy
     

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