Deutsche Bank says it has Trump-related tax records Congress wants

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  1. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    So he does other business with Russian oligarchs?
     
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    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    Hillary’s ties are that they donate to her charity. And Russia didn’t try to help her win.
     
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    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    In light of Russia’s recent actions and trumps constant praise, don’t we have a right to know the extent of the relationship?
     
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    He sold them real estate for sure. Could be a Russian owing him money with a solid reputation at the bank vouched for him. It's all WILD speculation without a source, or the identity of this "oligarch". MSNBC didn't even say when the loan was applied for. 20 yrs ago? Balance outstanding? So you going out on the limb or not? COLLUSION!? :lol:
     
  5. struth

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    and paid her husband half a million....and we aren't talking about change donated to her "foundation" large sums, while SoS...whher ich may or may not have lead to "reset" and being much more flexible with Russia...even after their invasion of Georgia, that Bush put a stop to

    Some Russians her campaign paid, certainly tried to help her win with that fawx Steele document.
     
  6. struth

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    What constant praise? He's added sanctions....not "reset" relations, or even promised to be "more flexible" - i think you are confusing admins again
     
  7. Egoboy

    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Uhhh... Russia should be back in the G7??

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    CNN reported that G7 tensions over Russia turned into open dispute at a private dinner during the summit, citing a senior U.S. official with knowledge of the exchange. The opposition was reportedly led by German Chancellor Angela Merkel and British Prime Minister Boris Johnson, both of whom argued that Russia has grown less democratic since being removed from the G8.

    But Trump stuck to his guns, continuing to blame predecessor Barack Obama for Russia's ejection. At a press conference on Monday, Trump suggested Obama had been "outsmarted" by Putin in Ukraine.
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-lapdog-putin-russia-senator-jeff-merkley-1456465

    LOL at the URL (trump-lapdog-putin)

    Nope, we have the correct subservient administration here...

    But we digress...
     
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  8. struth

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    Italy, Japan, and Germany all agree...and stated so before the President did. Russia was only suspended by Obama and the rest of the G7....Russia made the choice to then leave.
     
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    I'm disinclined to speculate upon what Trump's promise to the American people finally being fulfilled for him might portend, although some have not been as indulgent as I:

    Screen Shot 2019-08-28 at 11.11.22 AM.png

    Trump is on record, for six years, saying he'd have "no problem" releasing his returns, and even whined about a fellow Republican candidate's waiting too long to do so. Fake Don had scolded of a Republican rival, "The candidate must release his tax returns, ASAP!"

    Trump told Fox News that releasing the returns is a ...
    "great thing!"
    because it lets a person prove
    "you've been successful, and that you've made a lot of money!"

    [​IMG]
    "I actually think it's a positive!"
    he said.
    https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/times-donald-trump-release-tax-returns-article-1.3061868
    Be prepared to be dazzled when Trump's monumental modesty is finally vanquished, and his consummate honesty and genius shared with mankind.

    He may even blush.
     
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    It was a dud to Trumper’s because they ignored the fact that Mueller made it clear there was obstruction. He said if there was no obstruction he would have said so.What makes me laugh is your indifference to something that could be a very serious crime but yet you “licked the vomit” as you say, of Obama’s birth certificate.
     
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    No, the rules have changed.
     
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    all good questions, but the name is just a convenience factor, the business is the business.

    All I know is that I don't recall any time in the past 3 years reading the words "russian billionaire not close to putin" which means at least according to my extremely weak evidence, every billionaire is "close", whatever that means.

    The only thing that sticks out is if person X co-signs on a massive loan, say over 100 million, WHO co-signs a huge loan if they don't have a financial interest in the business and why would they?

    I have one very wealthy friend, has maybe 20 mil in property/cash, I would never ask unless desperate but at best I could get him to cosign a car loan for 15K, and i've known this guy for 20 years, and he'd probably just write me a check and ask for me to pay in full when I can. If I asked him to cosign for even 100K, he'd laugh at me unless he was getting a piece of the pie.

    ps: A credit reference is a completely different animal than someone cosigning for X, I can get a dozen credit references in an hour, I can only get a cosigner if i'm asking my father or brother and my brother would probably say "sorry bro", dad would likely not ask many questions.
     
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    I didn't give a crap about Obama's birth certificate.
     
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    Let’s get those tax records! Because we all know Trump is guilty. We just don’t know what he’s guilty of. Right Dems?
     
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  15. Egoboy

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    Well, we are well past Trump voluntarily releasing anything (including subpoenaed witnesses).... Everything will have to be pried from his cold tiny hands... Most transparent president ever, remember?

    If I read this correctly, there are now 4 places where Congress can potentially get at least some of Trumps taxes

    1. Trump (Ha Ha)
    2. IRS/Secretary of Treas (SHALL furnish)
    3. NY State - State taxes
    4. Deutsch Bank (Via subpoena) - Plus any loan applications, which might be equally interesting

    Something has to give on this front before the end of the year...
     
  16. Par10

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    So you are saying that the headline is a lie?

    Headline: "Deutsche Bank says it has Trump-related tax records Congress wants"
    Story: "But the bank didn't specify whether those documents include tax returns filed by Mr. Trump."
     
  17. Natty Bumpo

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    Don't discount WikiLeaks, a shady operation that has willfully compromised US security.

     
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    Millions of righties sure did
     
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    And the saddest thing is that it is obvious he is hiding something or else he is just guilty of another one of his 10,000 lies when he said he would release his tax records. You are right we don’t know what he’s guilty of but trump sure does. Right?
     
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    No, I think somebody is following strict legal advice, in meeting subpoena and judge requests while simultaneously attempting to protect a client... eventually, the former will take precedence...

    It's also possible, as I've read elsewhere, that DB has tax information and documents while not technically having the "tax returns filed"...

    If you have the information that goes on the taxes, but not the actual tax forms, do you have his "taxes"??

    Word games...
     
  21. Doofenshmirtz

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    The same can be said for you and every other US citizen. There are more laws on the books that you can read in a lifetime and the average American commits 3 federal crimes per day. Worst case, you get 8 years of Trump. Turning the IRS into a political weapon is a mistake that will last long after Trump is gone. What happens when those holding the IRS leash opposes your political views?
     
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    Uhhh.... 2/3rds bullcrap.... but that means 1/3 truth, so a big boy step there...

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    Of the other leaders around the table, only Giuseppe Conte, the outgoing Italian prime minister, offered Trump any support, according to this account. Shinzo Abe of Japan was neutral. The rest – the UK’s Boris Johnson, Germany’s Angela Merkel, Canada’s Justin Trudeau, the EU council president, Donald Tusk, and the French president, Emmanuel Macron – pushed back firmly against the suggestion.
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...or-russias-readmission-causes-row-in-biarritz

    Frankly, on the surface, Trump is actually correct here....(shocked face).... Russia probably should be in the G7/G8, but it's simply not going to happen with this set of leaders and until Russia takes massive steps.....
     
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    This would explain why Trump's behavior has been treasonous almost right from the start. His loyalty is to his lender - Putin, and not the American people.
     
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    You mean like now?? Nothing has happened that I'm aware of....

    Nobody is doing what I bolded... the LAW authorizing this access is almost 100 years old...
     
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    The IRS already has this information. Do you really not see how this can backfire?
     

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